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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2014, 01:54:39 PM »
I have a 5dIII. And had a lot of sd (big, small, fast, slow) cards that I used in my older camera.
For the 5dIII, I bought a big - slow - compact flash, and, in addition to my standard sd cards, I bought a very fast SD card.
fast SD cards are a lot cheaper than fast compact flash..   
I also gave a try to a very fast and expensive compact flash that my wife have for her 7d.

To transfer to computer, I notice no differences. I have an integrated card-reader in the computer, and, of course, fast compact flash goes fast, fast sd goes fast, slow sd goes slow, and slow compactflash goes slow...

I also didn't notice any difference when shooting, with the 5d3. fast sd goes fast, fast compactflash goes fast...that's all. So I try to have always 2 cards in it, one primary, fast, and the other as a "second" when the first is full.

So finally, for me, this debate is a debate about the cost of the cards..

Rumor has it that the sd in a mkiii is slow regardless of its speed rating.  I usually just have the cf card in my mkiii and then pop in the sd card to copy over.
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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2014, 01:54:39 PM »

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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2014, 03:34:31 PM »
(that's Lexar new 256GB Professional 3333x CFast™ 2.0 card) and the answer can change to "1"

That's a whole lot of eggs that will fit in that one basket.  I think I recall my momma saying something about that…   ;)

If you accidentally format the card, you can recover images.  Or the card starts acting funny.  Just don't shoot until you do.

So you never make a mistake and your cards are flawless, sure 1 card is enough.  If you are human or your equipment has an occasional glitch, like the rest of us, then a few extra cards will help. 

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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2014, 04:38:19 PM »
(that's Lexar new 256GB Professional 3333x CFast™ 2.0 card) and the answer can change to "1"

That's a whole lot of eggs that will fit in that one basket.  I think I recall my momma saying something about that…   ;)

If you accidentally format the card, you can recover images.  Or the card starts acting funny.  Just don't shoot until you do.

So you never make a mistake and your cards are flawless, sure 1 card is enough.  If you are human or your equipment has an occasional glitch, like the rest of us, then a few extra cards will help.
I switched from 16GB to 64GB and that made me nervous. One card takes from 2500 to 3000 RAW images and if you wait until it´s full before you swap, a faulty card or any other fxxx up may be quite disastrous. In both my 1DX and 5DIII I duplicate all images on the two available cards, but I either swap cards or download every day. 

But I remember when I was thrilled to get my first 8GB CF card, so I suppose 256GB is a candidate for being standard when we go to +45MP images.
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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2014, 06:28:12 PM »
In short the simple answer seems to be "more", I just came across the following http://www.lexar.com/products/lexar-professional-3333x-cfast-card (that's Lexar new 256GB Professional 3333x CFast™ 2.0 card) and the answer can change to "1".  :D

You still need 1 spare CF card and one SD card for Magic Lantern.
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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2014, 08:21:31 PM »
But I remember when I was thrilled to get my first 8GB CF card, so I suppose 256GB is a candidate for being standard when we go to +45MP images.
I remember being thrilled when I bought my first 256MB CompactFlash card!  I still carry it as a back up if you can believe that.  I paid like $200 for it, so I can't just throw it away :)
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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2014, 10:17:58 PM »
But I remember when I was thrilled to get my first 8GB CF card, so I suppose 256GB is a candidate for being standard when we go to +45MP images.
I remember being thrilled when I bought my first 256MB CompactFlash card!  I still carry it as a back up if you can believe that.  I paid like $200 for it, so I can't just throw it away :)

 $200... Ouch.  The most I ever spent on a card was $20 and even then it was an effort to open up the wallet. 
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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2014, 11:26:01 PM »
Both 5D MK III's have a 64GB Delkin 1050X(same price as the 1000X when ordered) in them when I'm out, with a pair of 64GB Delkin 700X and a single 32GB Delkin 1000X in the pack as spares.  If I leave the local 100 mile nearby area, I generally throw in a couple of additional 32GB Delkin 700X cards just in case I take 8K+ RAW shots or a card nukes.
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Re: How many cards?
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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2014, 10:55:59 AM »
Someone here mentioned they give or sell their old cards with camera bodies.  I will never get rid of my old cards.  I accidentally formatted a card once and used the recovery software to get back my images.  I found hundreds and hundreds of images on there from months and months prior.  I had formatted that card dozens of times and yet there were tons of images from past shooting days. 

There may be a better way to format a card then using the camera to totally erase all the little bits and bytes.... but then again there are some very clever programs out there for file recovery.

I'm not saying that my work is so valuable I wouldn't want someone else getting it, but that it is too personal to me! 

I keep all old cards.

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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2014, 12:09:08 PM »
Someone here mentioned they give or sell their old cards with camera bodies.  I will never get rid of my old cards.  I accidentally formatted a card once and used the recovery software to get back my images.  I found hundreds and hundreds of images on there from months and months prior.  I had formatted that card dozens of times and yet there were tons of images from past shooting days. 

There may be a better way to format a card then using the camera to totally erase all the little bits and bytes.... but then again there are some very clever programs out there for file recovery.

I'm not saying that my work is so valuable I wouldn't want someone else getting it, but that it is too personal to me! 

I keep all old cards.

When you format, did you do a slow format or a quick one?

When you do a full format, the computer writes over every block back to simple 1's and 0's.  It takes forever.  A quick format just marked everything as deleted and is consequently recoverable. 

I might be wrong about that, but that is my understanding. 

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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2014, 01:26:03 PM »
When you format, did you do a slow format or a quick one?

When you do a full format, the computer writes over every block back to simple 1's and 0's.  It takes forever.  A quick format just marked everything as deleted and is consequently recoverable. 

I might be wrong about that, but that is my understanding.

I just format with the camera.  So for a CF card you don't have a choice.  With SD I do a low level format.

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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2014, 08:18:43 PM »
When you format, did you do a slow format or a quick one?

When you do a full format, the computer writes over every block back to simple 1's and 0's.  It takes forever.  A quick format just marked everything as deleted and is consequently recoverable. 

I might be wrong about that, but that is my understanding.

Full format will not erase data on sectors.  However, it will scan bad sectors for you.  That's why you still can recovery data from full formatted discs/cards.  Nowadays hard drives and flash drives/cards rarely have bad sectors, so quick formatted is recommended.
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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2014, 11:12:53 PM »
I guess they are welcome to my d!ck pics... excuse me... my art photos.

When you format, did you do a slow format or a quick one?

When you do a full format, the computer writes over every block back to simple 1's and 0's.  It takes forever.  A quick format just marked everything as deleted and is consequently recoverable. 

I might be wrong about that, but that is my understanding.

Full format will not erase data on sectors.  However, it will scan bad sectors for you.  That's why you still can recovery data from full formatted discs/cards.  Nowadays hard drives and flash drives/cards rarely have bad sectors, so quick formatted is recommended.
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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2014, 09:20:50 AM »
I am deeply understanding wickidwombat: to have a (or two or three) spares is always necessary.
And with the double slot on the 5DMk3 this camera got professional in my mind: no worries about a corrupt card or file.

BTW: 16 and 32GB seem to have the right capacity for raw. 500 up to 1000 files are not too much to remember a bit of the non- exif data in my memory, not too less to shoot something important and dont want to change the cards.

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Re: How many cards?
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2014, 07:09:54 PM »
When you format, did you do a slow format or a quick one?

When you do a full format, the computer writes over every block back to simple 1's and 0's.  It takes forever.  A quick format just marked everything as deleted and is consequently recoverable. 

I might be wrong about that, but that is my understanding.

I just format with the camera.  So for a CF card you don't have a choice.  With SD I do a low level format.

every so often I do a slow format in the computer.  This checks for bad blocks/sectors on the card.  The quick format (and in camera format) only clear the directory table.

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Re: How many cards?
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2014, 10:03:57 AM »
Hi

I've got 2 x 16 GB 160 mb/s CF cards and a heap of 16 GB 15 mb/s SD cards.
I shoot mainly events and this gets me through a day. I've done a few weddings and you really need a few 32 GB CF cards....

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Re: How many cards?
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