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Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« on: December 19, 2013, 06:45:52 PM »
The future of the SX line?
Canon has patented a 100x zoom lens for compact cameras. It has a focal range of 3.6mm to 340mm. With the crop factor of 5.2 for a 1/2.3″ sensor, that’s about an 18mm-1768mm lens!

I’ve always thought 50x zoom wasnt enough in my bag, this is going to solve those issues! I expect to see a new SX series camera or two announced for CES 2014 in Las Vegas next month.

Patent Publication No. 2013-242430,2013-242431

  • Publication date 2013.12.5
  • Filing date 2012.5.21

Example 2

  • Zoom ratio 48.37
  • Focal length f = 4.30-13.30-208.00mm
  • Fno. 2.87-5.00-7.07
  • Half angle ω = 37.77-16.25-1.07 °
  • 94.75-94.56-138.99mm overall length of the lens
  • BF 10.40-19.43-10.43mm
  • 13 pieces of 10-group lens configuration
  • Two four-sided aspherical

Example 5

  • Zoom ratio 94.44
  • Focal length f = 3.60-14.51-340.00mm
  • Fno. 3.50-5.00-9.00
  • Half angle ω = 42.12-14.95-0.65 °
  • 95.91-97.40-165.41mm overall length of the lens
  • BF 10.48-21.86-2.28mm
  • 13 pieces of 10-group lens configuration
  • Three 5-sided aspherical

Source: [EG]

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Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 07:01:16 PM »
Not surprised. The future of fixed lens bodies is in niche marketing. Superzooms, waterproof, sophisticated bodies for enthusiasts, etc. Canon and Nikon are positioning their products to adapt to the changing marketplace.
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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 07:32:40 PM »
f/9 and an optical blow-up formula (focal length of 340mm but only a 165mm total lens length)...

This must result in high shutter speeds and superb image quality!

Oh wait... you cant cheat physics.
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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2013, 07:39:10 PM »
They are also introducing Super UD and Fluorite elements which will increase the cost.

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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2013, 07:49:38 PM »
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<strong>The future of the SX line?<br />


</strong>Canon has patented a 100x zoom lens for compact cameras. It has a focal range of 3.6mm to 340mm. With the crop factor of 5.2 for a 1/2.3″ sensor, that’s about an 18mm-1768mm lens!</p>
<p>I’ve always thought 50x zoom wasnt enough in my bag, this is going to solve those issues! I expect to see a new SX series camera or two announced for CES 2014 in Las Vegas next month.</p>
<p><strong>Patent Publication No. 2013-242430,2013-242431</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Publication date 2013.12.5</li>
<li>Filing date 2012.5.21</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Example 2</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Zoom ratio 48.37</li>
<li>Focal length f = 4.30-13.30-208.00mm</li>
<li>Fno. 2.87-5.00-7.07</li>
<li>Half angle ω = 37.77-16.25-1.07 °</li>
<li>94.75-94.56-138.99mm overall length of the lens</li>
<li>BF 10.40-19.43-10.43mm</li>
<li>13 pieces of 10-group lens configuration</li>
<li>Two four-sided aspherical</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Example 5</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Zoom ratio 94.44</li>
<li>Focal length f = 3.60-14.51-340.00mm</li>
<li>Fno. 3.50-5.00-9.00</li>
<li>Half angle ω = 42.12-14.95-0.65 °</li>
<li>95.91-97.40-165.41mm overall length of the lens</li>
<li>BF 10.48-21.86-2.28mm</li>
<li>13 pieces of 10-group lens configuration</li>
<li>Three 5-sided aspherical</li>
</ul>
<p>Source: [<a href=\"http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-12-20\" target=\"_blank\">EG</a>]</p>
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I hope it has IS!!!!!

I read somewhere that the next version of the superzoom will have a 60X lens... 100X would be quite the jump.
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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2013, 08:31:31 PM »
My normal carry around range is roughly 6mm (the rectilinear field of view equivalent of a full frame fisheye) to 400mm.  That's about 67x, and I routinely crop the 400mm to 800mm+ for a total range of well over 100x.  Glad to see them going toward ultrawide, but still really slow.

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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 09:04:15 PM »
It'll sell well against the less knowledgeable amateur buyers who will look purely at the spec sheet!
Hurry up Canon and do something with your sensors! :P

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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 09:04:15 PM »

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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 11:46:10 PM »
It'll sell well against the less knowledgeable amateur buyers who will look purely at the spec sheet!

Yes, the higher the figures ( zoom, megapixels, ... ), the better the camera must be  ::)

I have a canon compact that has a 16 megapixel sensor; the actual resolution counting for the resolving power of the lens and noise + jpeg compression cannot be higher than about 8 megapixels imho. So what are those extra pixels doing there besides create noise (and sales)....

Don't get me wrong, I like it when they push development but there comes a point where it has lost most of the practicality.
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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 10:54:45 AM »
Crazy numbers, it will be quite an accomplishment if it retains the quality or improves on the quality of the SX50HS.
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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 05:08:19 PM »
It'll sell well against the less knowledgeable amateur buyers who will look purely at the spec sheet!

Yes, the higher the figures ( zoom, megapixels, ... ), the better the camera must be  ::)

I have a canon compact that has a 16 megapixel sensor; the actual resolution counting for the resolving power of the lens and noise + jpeg compression cannot be higher than about 8 megapixels imho. So what are those extra pixels doing there besides create noise (and sales)....

Don't get me wrong, I like it when they push development but there comes a point where it has lost most of the practicality.
I also live wondering what to serve a 16 megapixel small sensor with a dark lens. I would buy such a camera SX50 for walks, but I wish it had a maximum of 8 megapixel. After all, the 50X zoom lens can not resolve more detail than 8 megapixel.

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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 09:27:28 PM »
The SX50 has a very good reputation, what I want is the ability to use it with my large hands.  A 3" touch screen, wifi, etc.
 
I guess that since the competition has come out with a 60X lens, they need to recover bragging rights. 
There must also be a greatly improved IS.  The SX50 had the hybrid IS and is good, maybe they can do better.

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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2013, 02:35:26 AM »
1768mm @ f/9 will require a tripod and the best light conditions, so what's the point?

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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2013, 04:29:22 AM »
1768mm @ f/9 will require a tripod and the best light conditions, so what's the point?
At 50X, the SX50 works surprisingly well. With digital zoom enabled  it goes up to 200X and is still very hand-holdable. I have no doubt that Canon could get 100X to work....
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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2013, 06:22:45 AM »
I'll be selling all of my gear as soon as this hits the street ;)
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Re: Who's Ready for a 100x Zoom PowerShot?
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