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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2013, 05:25:24 AM »
There's an easy workaround in Lightroom to solve this and to achieve unique filenames for all of your photo's. Automatically.

Some things can be variable, but I use a variation of an official renaming system here:

First part is my name (initials):
GeAr
The date (dec 22 2013):
20131222
The time (17h14min12sec):
171412
The filenumber (from _MG0001.CR2):
0001

So the name will be: GeAr_20131222_171412_0001.CR2

Even if you use 10 camera's, you will never shoot a picture with more then one camera in one second. And even if you do, there is very very little chance to have the same 4-digit number in one second. If you're affraid to have this problem, you can make extra presets to add your camera name (eg GeAr_20131222_171412_7D_0001.CR2)

The most important thing is obviously to set your cameras exactly at the same time. This can be done very easy and quickly.
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2013, 05:25:24 AM »

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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2013, 05:26:47 AM »
To organise, I use collections instead of folders.
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2013, 06:50:08 AM »
Hi Daniel,

I simply use the Canon application (EOS Utility) to import all my pictures from whatever ("Canon") camera I use. I name my files "year-month-day-hour-minutes-second-XXXX' where XXXX-digits are a sequential number.
Later I can move them or edit them whenever and whatever I wanna do with them.
By the way, LR can be also used but I need to remember them in a different form but, I prefer Canon way.

I do something similar, the file name will be for instance: 2013_12_22_1354.xxx

When I shoot an event with two bodies I will upload the photos from both bodies using eos utility. Then I open the directory with an image viewer/editor (DPP or ACDSEE Pro) and sort according to date/time the photo is taken (Make sure the camera's are set to the same date/time before shooting!!!). Then rename to 2013_12_22_XXXX.xxx (starting at 0000) and the files are intermeshed. After this I leave the file name as is; ie shooting date and sequence number.

The originals go in one directory , file tree is shooting date followed by subject. This tree structure is mirrored in an 'export directory'. ie "Photography\Originals\2013\2013_12_22 - event name\" and "Photography\Export\2013\2013_12_22 - event name\". These are then mirrored on a NAS for safe keeping.
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2013, 07:31:27 AM »
Wow, lots of good advice!
Thank you for sharing your own ways of doing it!
@Graham - A shortcut link is a simple but great idea!
@JPAZ - The 5D3 is really a great camera, isn't it? I will have to make do with the 60D for now, and will buy the 7D2 when (if?) it comes out (hopefully with that same functionality).
@extremeinstability - Terrific photos! Congratulations!
@Jack Douglas - I am thinking just that, getting things organized now (I will not work between Christmas and new year's eve) and spend 2014 taking pics... :)
@privatebydesign - I guess you are right. I should let LR do its job organizing for me so I can have more time posting here and learning (for my wife's desperation).
@Gert Arijs - Will give it a try right now!
@mrsfotografie - I am not familiar at all with EOS utility. Do you feel it is better than using a LR-only system?
Many, many thanks everyone!
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2013, 08:04:05 AM »
I have LR set up to import to Year/Date folders, preserving the original EOS file name.  So anything I shoot and download today would download, for example, as 2013\22-Dec-2013\16A098.CR2

I'll usually just leave the date folder name intact for while during my early processing, since about 99.99% of the time that date folder will contain the photos from a single subject/shoot.

Then once I've pretty much dealt with all the culling and editing, I right-click that folder in the LR library and give it a descriptive name, e.g. my 2013\28-Nov-2013 folder got renamed to "2013 Family Thanksgiving".  When renaming the folder in the LR catalog, the physical folder on the drive also gets renamed.

I keep 3 years worth of folders in my current LR catalog - the current year, plus the previous two.  So right now I have folders for 2011 through 2013 in my current LR working catalog.  At the beginning of each year, LR automatically adds a new year folder when performing the first download for that year.  So when I do my first download in 2014, LR will automatically create  2014 folder in the catalog, and start downloading all 2014 photos in to date folders for that year.  At that point,  I go to the oldest year currently open in the catalog - in this case, 2011 - export it out in to it's own catalog, then remove it from the current working catalog.  So after January 1, 2014, I'll have folders for 2012 through 2014 in the current working catalog. 

The annual catalog exports are also named by year and sent to their own separate "Lightroom Exports" folder. I've only had one occasion in a couple of years to have to go back to one of these exported catalogs to retrieve an image.

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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2013, 10:00:24 AM »
@mrsfotografie - I am not familiar at all with EOS utility. Do you feel it is better than using a LR-only system?
Many, many thanks everyone!
Daniel
For importing of photo's I don't think it matters much, Daniel. I'm sure Lightroom gives you the option to rename as you like on import, and otherwise you can always rename thereafter. EOS utility includes some other tools that allow you to adjust camera settings etc, can be useful. If you're happy with lightroom, stick to that.
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2013, 10:23:45 AM »
There's an easy workaround in Lightroom to solve this and to achieve unique filenames for all of your photo's. Automatically.

Some things can be variable, but I use a variation of an official renaming system here:

First part is my name (initials):
GeAr
The date (dec 22 2013):
20131222
The time (17h14min12sec):
171412
The filenumber (from _MG0001.CR2):
0001

So the name will be: GeAr_20131222_171412_0001.CR2

Even if you use 10 camera's, you will never shoot a picture with more then one camera in one second. And even if you do, there is very very little chance to have the same 4-digit number in one second. If you're affraid to have this problem, you can make extra presets to add your camera name (eg GeAr_20131222_171412_7D_0001.CR2)

The most important thing is obviously to set your cameras exactly at the same time. This can be done very easy and quickly.
What about burst mode? I need a 10,000 frame per second burst mode :)

Seriously though, good naming scheme.
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2013, 03:34:58 PM »
I do not like to have identical file names so I use a naming scheme like this one:

IMG_40D1_001234.cr2
IMG_40D2_001234.cr2
IMG_S95a_001234.cr2

Red are the original parts of the file name, 40d is the camera type and the cipher 1 is the first of my two 40Ds. The 00 prefix allows for unique names of the next 990000 shots.

Renaming is done with irfanview which lets you choose the files to rename in a batch job. The black part of the previous exampes is inserted by irfanview.
But try this feature with a copy of not so important files before you do the renaming of important data.
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2013, 10:03:38 AM »
I do not like to have identical file names so I use a naming scheme like this one:

IMG_40D1_001234.cr2
IMG_40D2_001234.cr2
IMG_S95a_001234.cr2

Red are the original parts of the file name, 40d is the camera type and the cipher 1 is the first of my two 40Ds. The 00 prefix allows for unique names of the next 990000 shots.

Renaming is done with irfanview which lets you choose the files to rename in a batch job. The black part of the previous exampes is inserted by irfanview.
But try this feature with a copy of not so important files before you do the renaming of important data.

That's a great scheme, and I'll use it myself with a slight variation:

IMG_60D_YYYYMMDD_####.cr2
or
IMG_S120_YYYYMMDD_####.cr2

Well, I guess it's time to go organize some 10,000 photos now... :)

Thanks, mb66energy and all others!

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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2013, 10:57:50 AM »
I've sort of got my problem under control now; I used to rename and it was painful when I had to back up a drive or migrate to separate things.

One thing on OS X/Linux you can do is use exiftool and learn to script perl (don't roll your eyes at me, it's not THAT hard).

I still have to sort out stuff from my powershot days, but now I stick to pictures\5D_CR2\<images in original name>  then worry about tagging them in Lightroom.
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2013, 02:03:54 PM »
Bulk renaming is actually a place where PhotoMechanic is better than Lightroom (that and tag'ing photos).  Give their free demo a run, it's really fast to work with.  Even if your camera isn't set to exactly the right time you can have it update that as well.  It's easy to burst out multiple shots the same second when you have a remote camera setup or are shooting sports.

Personally, I do:

Year\Month\day_topic\CameraNumber_####.cr2
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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2013, 02:45:10 PM »
Use DownloaderPro from Breeze systems.
Totally customizable for downloads.
 I get DL to sort into camera (1d2, 1dx, 5d3)
You can also sort by camera serial number. Easy with DL.
You can also set it to store 2 copies (1 onto 1 disk, another onto backup disk)
Outstanding program. Been using it for years.

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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2013, 03:29:14 PM »
I import all photos according to date, and they live in those folders. I have set up a conventional naming scheme which is applied during import.
THEN,
I sort the photos from that DATE into different COLLECTIONS. (Fishing, Portraits, Family, Ice Cubes, Flowers, Dogs, Insects, Foliage. etc)
The collections are endless, and new ones are created for new subjects of interest. All photos, however, live in the date they were shot folder.

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Re: Renaming and storing photos
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2013, 04:34:33 PM »
@Digbydriver - I understand date is more important than subject. Used to think otherwise, but in terms of organizing inside the computer (not inside my head) the date is more important. Thanks!

@PaulTopol - Yes, I will look for a free trial and see how it goes. Thanks!

@Halfrack - I have come up with DW60D_YYYYMMDD_HHMM_####.cr2 (initials, camera etc). Thank you!

@dstppy - I'm first renaming everything I have (just bought Better Rename 9, wow, terrific program), and then I will start to organize. I have decided to store the originals in two external HDs (mirrored) and use LR to catalog, and to not copy the files into the iMac. On the external HDs, I will sort files by year and month, and use tagging on LR more religiously. Then, I will back up folders a second time to DVDs, also in this year/month scheme. Thanks!

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« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2013, 09:54:16 AM »
@dstppy - I'm first renaming everything I have (just bought Better Rename 9, wow, terrific program), and then I will start to organize. I have decided to store the originals in two external HDs (mirrored) and use LR to catalog, and to not copy the files into the iMac. On the external HDs, I will sort files by year and month, and use tagging on LR more religiously. Then, I will back up folders a second time to DVDs, also in this year/month scheme. Thanks!
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