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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2011, 10:40:56 AM »

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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2011, 10:42:04 AM »
It's a 1Ds. You can see the extra "bump" at the top of the viewfinder that the hot show sits on. That extra bit is not on the 1D series.

on the second page quoted, the 1D on there appears to have a hotshoe bump.  Or is it just my eyes playing with me?

And the next page (also canon related)
http://imcmsimages.mediacorp.sg/CMSFileserver/documents/006/PDF/20111012/1210WRA002.pdf

I think it is your eyes. I don't see a bump on the 1D. Maybe you mean the weather sealing around the hot shoe?
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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2011, 10:48:16 AM »
Very interesting.  Hopefully it is a sign of good things to come. :)

I am just getting back into DSLR photography so my apologies for the newbie question.

If it is a new 1D or 1Ds or some sort of combination of the two, what do you think the price point would be at?

What makes the 1D & 1Ds line better than the 5D line? Is the double in price over the 5D justified?

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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2011, 11:07:36 AM »

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Can't wait to upgrade from 60d to 5D mrk III  :)

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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2011, 11:16:42 AM »
Can't wait to upgrade from 60d to 5D mrk III  :)

Ditto.  I got a 60D just to hold me over until the 5DIII, if I had known it would take this long I would have spent the extra little bit on a 7D.

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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2011, 11:19:59 AM »
Very interesting.  Hopefully it is a sign of good things to come. :)

I am just getting back into DSLR photography so my apologies for the newbie question.

If it is a new 1D or 1Ds or some sort of combination of the two, what do you think the price point would be at?

What makes the 1D & 1Ds line better than the 5D line? Is the double in price over the 5D justified?

Thanks so much! -- Steven

No one knows the price points or if the 1d/Ds lines will be combined or not, but generally Canon is careful about depreciating the values of the current products, so expect it to be in the same range as current offerings.

The 1D's have better AF tracking, faster AF, more accurate AF, (focusses on faster moving objects quicker in less light...) They usually have dual card holders, more than twice the FPS in burst more, twice the rated shutter count, ergonomics that appeal to extreme conditions (button layout / lighted displays for night shooting). It has some extras such as a customizable +/- 7 AEB EV mode, the rest have +/-3 etc.

The IQ might be better in maybe 1-2% of the situations... but is not 2x of the 5D... for whatever it is worth. If in the newer models they use the same FF sensor then the differences will be even less.

I know people that spent less than the price of a 1Ds and got a 5D plus a 7D... thereby getting a lot of the features of 1D plus the flexibility of having a FF and a 1.6 crop when you need it... plus a back up body...

If you are not definitely sure you need a 1D body... Maybe you are a 5D/7D contender.
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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2011, 11:28:07 AM »

if I had known it would take this long I would have spent the extra little bit on a 7D.
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Same here, almost buy used 7d...I kinda like the swivel screen on 60d. But hey, I'm ready to joy the BIG BOY GROUP. FF

I have my cash ready  ;)

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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2011, 11:28:07 AM »

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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2011, 11:33:26 AM »
if they really announce the new 1Ds in singapore I’ll be SOOOO HONOURED.

Finally tiny singapore get’s a little spot in Photographic history :)

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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2011, 11:36:03 AM »
Old 5D is still an awesome camera and about the same price as a 60D. Why people wanting better image quality would choose a cropped over a full frame sensor for the same price is beyond me.

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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2011, 11:38:24 AM »
@aldvan @K-amps Thanks so much for the info.

Aldvan -- the building quality and feel are can not easily be fully understood when reading about them online.  Thanks for pointing it out.  Makes complete sense.

K-amps -- thanks for pointing out the differences in specs.  I have a better understanding of why / when a photog would push up to the 1D/1Ds series.  I agree with you I am in the 7D/5D range for sure.  As I will also be using the camera for video interviews I am thinking of going with the 60D.  Also by going with the less expensive camera it makes upgrading in a year or so a little easier (if needed).

Due to the increase in technology it seems that the newer cameras of a lower line can really compete with the older cameras of a higher line. Unless there is a specific feature you need that is only available in the higher line such as dual cards.

Looking forward to what is announced in the next few weeks to make my decision.  I am shooting with a borrowed Nikon D90, so any new body I go wiht will be an improvement.

Thanks Again! -- Steven

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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2011, 11:54:03 AM »
Extra bump on top - GPS antenna?
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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2011, 12:02:20 PM »
Extra bump on top - GPS antenna?

I don't think so. I'm talking about the 1Ds Mark III has a extra bump compared to the 1D Mark IV. I wasn't speculating about the new camera.
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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2011, 12:29:24 PM »
Please, please, please be a 1Ds IV!   ;D
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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2011, 12:34:42 PM »
Please please be a front for a full frame sensor mirrorless camera within a GF1 sized body.  ;)


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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2011, 12:41:06 PM »
@surfing_geek: look at the photog's. none of them lets you see the Mk's...is one of them holding a 5diii?

Seriously? I swear everything/anything that anyone sees some how just points to a 5D Mark III. That's like saying your breakfast formed a 5D III on your plate... so that automatically results in the possibility of announcement.

This past month or so has been filled with announcement somehow resulting in the 5D. First it was the September announcement, and then all eyes went toward November 3rd, then you had that printer announcement tied with the EOS logo, and now they're coming back to this coming week (when it obviously will not be the 5D3). The 5DIII won't be coming until next year.

Its just annoying to see how some people take every sign/signal and somehow result it to a 5D3.

The camera will come out when it comes out but under the right signs... right now nothing is pointing toward a 5D3 it'll be the Mark 5 (or something in the professional range).

BTW I'm not just trying to call out that single poster and I'm not trying to hate on them, just trying to make a point.
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Re: Canon Announcement in Singapore - October 18, 2011
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2011, 12:41:06 PM »