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EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« on: December 27, 2013, 07:59:59 AM »

We’ve heard, along with others that the EF 400 f/5.6L is hard to acquire in a few areas around the globe. This is leading to the suggestion that the little supertelephoto is being primed for replacement with an IS version.


We have said we’ve been told 2014 will be the “year of the lens“, and if that’s the case, a few of the lenses will definitely be of the niche variety. The lenses have lower production requirements and usually higher margins. The EF 400 f/5.6L, while a wonderful performer, would certainly benefit from the latest optics, IS and perhaps a bit of weight savings or length reduction.


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EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« on: December 27, 2013, 07:59:59 AM »

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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2013, 08:08:23 AM »
I'm definitely hoping that it gets replaced with a 400mm f4 IS lens at an affordable price.

I realise that both the 400mm f2.8 and 500mm f4 are really expensive, but the 300mm f4 is under £1000, so shurely a 400mm f4 could be made that isn't that expensive.


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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2013, 08:08:58 AM »
Maybe Canon will finally move forward with a new 100-400 and 400mm IS, given that Tokina's new 100-600 - based on the first test pictures showing up - could provide a decent competition.

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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2013, 08:11:53 AM »
I need a new 100-400 Mk2 and a 400 f/5.6 with IS comparison war to rage for many many moons like a hole in the head.

I'll never make a decision on a 400 with MORE options ;)

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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2013, 08:17:27 AM »
I need a new 100-400 Mk2 and a 400 f/5.6 with IS comparison war to rage for many many moons like a hole in the head.

I'll never make a decision on a 400 with MORE options ;)
I'm sure the new price tag might help, if recent increases (24-70, etc.) are anything to go by.  If they really add IS and upgrade the optics, it will probably go for over $2k.
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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2013, 08:28:48 AM »
I'm definitely hoping that it gets replaced with a 400mm f4 IS lens at an affordable price.

I realise that both the 400mm f2.8 and 500mm f4 are really expensive, but the 300mm f4 is under £1000, so shurely a 400mm f4 could be made that isn't that expensive.

A 400mm f/4 will be about the same size and weight as a 300mm f/2.8, unless it is a DO version, which is already available at an even higher price than the £5000 300mm f/2.8. So, I don't think a 400mm f/4 will be cheap.

If Canon is going to make something the size of 400mm f/4, my dream would be a super sharp f/5.6 500mm as a lightweight supertele  that could combined with 1.4xTC.
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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 09:05:21 AM »
The current 400 f5.6 L is a great lens but it could use IS for sure.
Unfortunately the replacement rumor has been circulated since 2009 on the Internet and it is still just a rumor.

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 09:05:21 AM »

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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2013, 09:07:15 AM »
given that Tokina's new 100-600 - based on the first test pictures showing up - could provide a decent competition.

???

you mean tamrons 150-600mm i guess....


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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2013, 09:16:53 AM »
given that Tokina's new 100-600 - based on the first test pictures showing up - could provide a decent competition.
???

you mean tamrons 150-600mm i guess....
How many mm's pales in comparison to quality of optics.

For example, a 70-200F4IS will resolve more detail on a distant object than the Sigma 120-400. I am fairly willing to bet that an updated 400F5.6 will resolve more distant detail than a Tamron 150-600.

I will be first in line to pre-order this lens.....

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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2013, 09:18:24 AM »
I need a new 100-400 Mk2 and a 400 f/5.6 with IS comparison war to rage for many many moons like a hole in the head.

I'll never make a decision on a 400 with MORE options ;)

well i would be happy when finally some facts come from canon.

i would pay 2000 euro (twice what i have to pay for the old) for a new and improved 100-400mm but nothing happens.
but the day i buy the old 100-400mm the new one will be announced... im sure.

the only good is that i don´t desperately need a new 100-400mm yet.


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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2013, 09:28:44 AM »
Would you mind putting a CR rating to this rumor?

I for one strongly doubt it. The story about shortages in specific items suggesting an upgrade has been used - and denied - many times in the past. If almost nobody buys an item why should the retails keep it in stock?

Edit: In addition, your B&H advertisement shows it in stock (same as Adorama and BuyDig)...
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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2013, 09:29:56 AM »
...shurely a 400mm f4 could be made that isn't that expensive.

As surely as you could use it to take pictures of rainbow-pooping unicorns.  Unfortunately, the laws of physics and the principles of lens design are at odds with your surety.
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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2013, 09:36:13 AM »
Would you mind putting a CR rating to this rumor?

I for one strongly doubt it. The story about shortages in specific items suggesting an upgrade has been used - and denied - many times in the past. If almost nobody buys an item why should the retails keep it in stock?
Edit: In addition, your B&H advertisement shows it in stock (same as Adorama and BuyDig)...

I will bet they sell a lot more of this lens than the 200-400.....

The old 400F5.6 is/was a decent selling lens. I have seen a lot of copies of it in the field, certainly more than the 600F4 or 800F5.6....

There is a market for a long prime under $8000.
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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2013, 09:36:13 AM »

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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2013, 09:38:27 AM »
What is the price jump history of lenses that have had IS added in the past 10 years? $500-700+? It would make the 5.6 IS a 1999-2099 lens. Now factor in the more recent higher prices Canon has been starting with and it becomes a 2399 lens...regardless of all that conjecture, it's still a rumor. I can't buy a rumor.

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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2013, 09:38:39 AM »
Would you mind putting a CR rating to this rumor?

I for one strongly doubt it. The story about shortages in specific items suggesting an upgrade has been used - and denied - many times in the past. If almost nobody buys an item why should the retails keep it in stock?
Edit: In addition, your B&H advertisement shows it in stock (same as Adorama and BuyDig)...

I will bet they sell a lot more of this lens than the 200-400.....

The old 400F5.6 is/was a decent selling lens. I have seen a lot of copies of it in the field, certainly more than the 600F4 or 800F5.6....

There is a market for a long prime under $8000.
I did not say it would be a bad idea. I for one would be seriously tempted.

I said I do not believe this rumor! Plain and simple!

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Re: EF 400mm f/5.6L IS on the Way?
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2013, 09:38:39 AM »