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« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2014, 02:16:04 PM »
Yeah, I've just been offered tickets for the 2014 F1 grand prix in Montreal. This thread sure is going to get a few new pics added next summer! This time I will really try to attend the open pit day. That is one occasion I keep on missing year after year but will surely bring on some nice photo opportunities!


Do it!!  I love Melbourne being the first race of the season and having tickets that get me into the pits on the Thursday. 2 years ago I got some great shots of the differing front wing elements the teams were testing.  Here they also opened up the vip viewing deck on top of the pit complex for the day which enabled me to get shots into the cockpits of the cars as they wheeled them to scrutineering as well as some of Ferrari practicing their pitstops.

Some pics of new cars have been released.  The Force India doesn't look too bad in the side on shot



However the front on shot of the Williams looks horrible with that narrow extension.



And the weirdest of the lot.... Lotus



Please no sexual comments about the Lotus and Williams having a head on crash... ;D


That lotus appears to have a lot of rear wheel positive camber, this seems bizarre to me. May be its just a rendered model perspective thing though.
What a mess, my camera's sensor is full of massless particules that keep on trying to behave like waves!

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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2014, 11:04:52 PM »
That lotus appears to have a lot of rear wheel positive camber, this seems bizarre to me. May be its just a rendered model perspective thing though.
The camber is usually opposite to this, so I think it's just the overhead image giving off that impression.  I’m sad to see that their not at Jerez this week, but I’m glad that their Ex-principal has seen the light and joined McLaren!!!!!  We had the fastest car yesterday by 6 tenths, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a successful year this year, last year was the worst season we’ve had since 1980 so it can't get any worse....... :-\
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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2014, 05:10:12 AM »
I thought I would stick a couple of pic’s up from the Dubai 24 hours in January, what a weekend of fun!  I learnt a lot, like it’s time to buy a 70D as the ISO on the 550D leaves a lot to be desired!!  I arrived back just before dusk to catch the “glowing” brakes (and maybe catch a little exhaust flamage) but there had been an accident and there was a 60klm flag out >:(, this stayed out until after dark so I had to turn the ISO right up to 6400 to capture the shots I wanted, however I got 1 good one that I’m happy with (pic 1). I hope you enjoy the pics.  :)
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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2014, 02:33:07 PM »
That lotus appears to have a lot of rear wheel positive camber, this seems bizarre to me. May be its just a rendered model perspective thing though.
The camber is usually opposite to this, so I think it's just the overhead image giving off that impression.  I’m sad to see that their not at Jerez this week, but I’m glad that their Ex-principal has seen the light and joined McLaren!!!!!  We had the fastest car yesterday by 6 tenths, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a successful year this year, last year was the worst season we’ve had since 1980 so it can't get any worse....... :-\

I know it should be the other way around, but since the front wheels do not show weird camber, it seemed not to be a perspective thing... that's why it struck me.
What a mess, my camera's sensor is full of massless particules that keep on trying to behave like waves!

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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2014, 07:50:16 PM »
Hi Folks.
Being an engineer and fond of fixing vehicles it looks to me like the rear end not only has excessive positive camber, it also appears to have a huge amount of toe in!

Cheers Graham.


That lotus appears to have a lot of rear wheel positive camber, this seems bizarre to me. May be its just a rendered model perspective thing though.
The camber is usually opposite to this, so I think it's just the overhead image giving off that impression.  I’m sad to see that their not at Jerez this week, but I’m glad that their Ex-principal has seen the light and joined McLaren!!!!!  We had the fastest car yesterday by 6 tenths, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a successful year this year, last year was the worst season we’ve had since 1980 so it can't get any worse....... :-\

I know it should be the other way around, but since the front wheels do not show weird camber, it seemed not to be a perspective thing... that's why it struck me.
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« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2014, 11:21:40 AM »
Hi Folks.
Being an engineer and fond of fixing vehicles it looks to me like the rear end not only has excessive positive camber, it also appears to have a huge amount of toe in!

Cheers Graham.


That lotus appears to have a lot of rear wheel positive camber, this seems bizarre to me. May be its just a rendered model perspective thing though.
The camber is usually opposite to this, so I think it's just the overhead image giving off that impression.  I’m sad to see that their not at Jerez this week, but I’m glad that their Ex-principal has seen the light and joined McLaren!!!!!  We had the fastest car yesterday by 6 tenths, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a successful year this year, last year was the worst season we’ve had since 1980 so it can't get any worse....... :-\

I know it should be the other way around, but since the front wheels do not show weird camber, it seemed not to be a perspective thing... that's why it struck me.

Yeah, you're right, but at least you should expect some toe-in at the rear.
What a mess, my camera's sensor is full of massless particules that keep on trying to behave like waves!

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« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2014, 02:04:19 PM »
Hi Folks.
Being an engineer and fond of fixing vehicles it looks to me like the rear end not only has excessive positive camber, it also appears to have a huge amount of toe in!



This is just a wild guess, but perhaps the positive camber is there to increase the contact patch of the tire as the the rear suspension compresses during acceleration? The new turbo motors, after all, do produce quite a bit more torque than the old V-8s.

On a side note, the 2014 Ferrari is unspeakably hideous. It's by far the ugliest car in the pits! I might have to reconsider my stance as a fan of the Scuderia. I am refraining from posting pics of it, as I don't want people vomiting on their keyboards :o
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« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2014, 07:52:01 PM »
Hi Folks.
Being an engineer and fond of fixing vehicles it looks to me like the rear end not only has excessive positive camber, it also appears to have a huge amount of toe in!



This is just a wild guess, but perhaps the positive camber is there to increase the contact patch of the tire as the the rear suspension compresses during acceleration? The new turbo motors, after all, do produce quite a bit more torque than the old V-8s.

On a side note, the 2014 Ferrari is unspeakably hideous. It's by far the ugliest car in the pits! I might have to reconsider my stance as a fan of the Scuderia. I am refraining from posting pics of it, as I don't want people vomiting on their keyboards :o

F1 suspensions are super stiff to cope with the downforce. I doubt they'd deflectb so much under acceleration as to need this kind of camber. I recall reading that most of an F1 suspension deflection actually comes from tire flex.

As for ferrari, at least red does not attract attention does it???
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« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2014, 05:45:09 AM »
....I had to get one of my orbs in there too ;)

Jock...cool shots, but what am I looking at in the second photo?
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« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2014, 06:02:45 AM »
That lotus appears to have a lot of rear wheel positive camber, this seems bizarre to me. May be its just a rendered model perspective thing though.

The camber is usually opposite to this, so I think it's just the overhead image giving off that impression.  I’m sad to see that their not at Jerez this week, but I’m glad that their Ex-principal has seen the light and joined McLaren!!!!!  We had the fastest car yesterday by 6 tenths, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a successful year this year, last year was the worst season we’ve had since 1980 so it can't get any worse....... :-\


I know it should be the other way around, but since the front wheels do not show weird camber, it seemed not to be a perspective thing... that's why it struck me.

F1 cars have wider rims/tyres at the rear than the front, due to all the power going through them. Therefore, to get the same level of cornering force from each axle, the rear doesn't require the same quantity of negative camber. This also doubles up as a handy way of squaring off the tyre angles for putting the power down on the straights.



Therefore it is a perspective thing.
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2014, 11:10:48 AM »
Hi Folks.
Being an engineer and fond of fixing vehicles it looks to me like the rear end not only has excessive positive camber, it also appears to have a huge amount of toe in!



This is just a wild guess, but perhaps the positive camber is there to increase the contact patch of the tire as the the rear suspension compresses during acceleration? The new turbo motors, after all, do produce quite a bit more torque than the old V-8s.

On a side note, the 2014 Ferrari is unspeakably hideous. It's by far the ugliest car in the pits! I might have to reconsider my stance as a fan of the Scuderia. I am refraining from posting pics of it, as I don't want people vomiting on their keyboards :o

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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2014, 12:26:07 PM »
Hi Folks.
Just a few of mine from Goodwood Revival.
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Not what we went to see, I think this little lot worked out to a couple of millions worth of damage! Never let it be said they don't race properly.


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No not caravan racing, just some of the more unique things you see at the Revival.

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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2014, 01:07:06 PM »
Hi Folks
Goodwood Festival of Speed 2008 Rally Circuit.

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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2014, 01:31:23 PM »
Hi Folks
Some racing from Goodwood Revival 2008

2 Corvettes with very different setups doing very similar lap times.
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How far from the corner can torque keep one wheel airborne?
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At one point the Safety Car had to come out!
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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2014, 01:58:18 PM »
That lotus appears to have a lot of rear wheel positive camber, this seems bizarre to me. May be its just a rendered model perspective thing though.

The camber is usually opposite to this, so I think it's just the overhead image giving off that impression.  I’m sad to see that their not at Jerez this week, but I’m glad that their Ex-principal has seen the light and joined McLaren!!!!!  We had the fastest car yesterday by 6 tenths, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed for a successful year this year, last year was the worst season we’ve had since 1980 so it can't get any worse....... :-\


I know it should be the other way around, but since the front wheels do not show weird camber, it seemed not to be a perspective thing... that's why it struck me.

F1 cars have wider rims/tyres at the rear than the front, due to all the power going through them. Therefore, to get the same level of cornering force from each axle, the rear doesn't require the same quantity of negative camber. This also doubles up as a handy way of squaring off the tyre angles for putting the power down on the straights.



Therefore it is a perspective thing.


It could make sense that the front have high camber bu tlook straigth from perspective while the back look like they have positive camber while they don't... Had'nt tought it out like that. Thanks.  Nice photo by the way.
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