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« Reply #105 on: March 29, 2014, 01:59:06 PM »
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Thanks.  I agree about the panning but I didn't play around too long on it as even @f8 and iso 160 I was still getting a shutter speed of 1/640 which is nowhere near slow enough. I already have a new plan for the Friday next year.  High on the mound at turn 9 will allow me to shoot over the fence in one session and then I'll go back to turn 14 for the slightly faster sweeper.  In the meantime - plenty of panning practice!

By the way Roo, I think you tried the Tamron 150-600 at the GP. How did you like it for F1? I'd like to find one for rental for Montreal's GP, otherwise I'll probably rent a 100-400 as I did last year.
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« Reply #106 on: March 29, 2014, 08:18:57 PM »
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Thanks.  I agree about the panning but I didn't play around too long on it as even @f8 and iso 160 I was still getting a shutter speed of 1/640 which is nowhere near slow enough. I already have a new plan for the Friday next year.  High on the mound at turn 9 will allow me to shoot over the fence in one session and then I'll go back to turn 14 for the slightly faster sweeper.  In the meantime - plenty of panning practice!

By the way Roo, I think you tried the Tamron 150-600 at the GP. How did you like it for F1? I'd like to find one for rental for Montreal's GP, otherwise I'll probably rent a 100-400 as I did last year.

The Tammy was fine but I only used it on the Thursday and Friday. On the weekend there are far more people and it just becomes too big to use from my seat.  The 100-400 would be a bit better for that. The focus limiter on it is a good thing but a couple of times it did go hunting but I didn't miss anything because of it.  It tracked well when it was locked on to a subject but there were times when 600 was too much lens.  At turn 14 I could get a really nice head on shot as they turned into the corner and then track them to get the side on shot but at 600 it there was a lot more car than frame lol (see the Ricciardo shot).  I found myself getting down to 300 for the side on shots but from my seat 600 was perfect.
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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #107 on: March 31, 2014, 02:29:36 PM »
I've noticed that there are quite a few of my panning images where I would say the centre is in focus but the main subject in total should be in focus, in this image the driver and number plate are sharp enough for the time of night on an outdoor track, but the rest of the kart is blurry. 
The settings were ISO 6400 (70D is awesome!), 1/80th, f5.6 with the 18-55mmSTM, the metering was on spot, AWB and Al Servo.   Would evaluative be a better option to keep the whole vehicle sharp, or is there something else I'm missing??  I'm thinking that if I used a faster lens (f2.8) then the image would have even more blur at the centre (but I could have turned the ISO down), right??
Thanks in advance for any tips :)
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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #108 on: March 31, 2014, 07:12:00 PM »
I actually find when the whole vehicle / cart is not in focus appealing. When panning it's only in one direction. However, the vehicle / cart is moving in different planes, particularly around corners when there is lateral movement as well as forward movement. It adds to the dynamism of the image.

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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #109 on: April 01, 2014, 02:47:02 AM »
I actually find when the whole vehicle / cart is not in focus appealing.....It adds to the dynamism of the image.

I talk about it here in the last 3 images:

http://www.lightandmotionphotography.com/section467038_165834.html

Thanks for the reply, and I agree with you for most cases, but in this example (the kart) there is not a lot of vehicle length front to back, however a Formula 1 car in comparison is really long front to back, so I ideally want to perfect my skill in getting as much of the vehicle in focus as possible, love your site by the way, lots of inspiration there  :)
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« Reply #110 on: April 01, 2014, 02:41:20 PM »
I've noticed that there are quite a few of my panning images where I would say the centre is in focus but the main subject in total should be in focus, in this image the driver and number plate are sharp enough for the time of night on an outdoor track, but the rest of the kart is blurry. 
The settings were ISO 6400 (70D is awesome!), 1/80th, f5.6 with the 18-55mmSTM, the metering was on spot, AWB and Al Servo.   Would evaluative be a better option to keep the whole vehicle sharp, or is there something else I'm missing??  I'm thinking that if I used a faster lens (f2.8) then the image would have even more blur at the centre (but I could have turned the ISO down), right??
Thanks in advance for any tips :)

I think it is just that the kart is yawing around the driver. The farther apart from the yaw axis, the faster the movement, so the extremities of the car are blurred. I don't see anything other than a faster shutter speed or a flash shot to prevent this. Moreover, the car is pretty close to the curb, so there might have been some track roughness that shook the bodywork but that was 'damped' for the driver and steering column.

I think that smaller apertures might just add a layer of too shallow DoF over the movement blur so it would not help in anything except allow a lower iso for the same shutter speed and exposure.
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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #111 on: April 01, 2014, 03:17:45 PM »
Panned at 1/160 with the 5D3 and the 100-400






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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #112 on: April 02, 2014, 01:57:34 AM »
A question!

Is this limited to teresterial or can it include airplane races?  The Red Bull Air Race World Championship is coming to Texas and I could use some tips.

Thanks.

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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #113 on: April 02, 2014, 04:36:44 AM »
Hallo,

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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #114 on: April 02, 2014, 01:18:38 PM »
A question!

Is this limited to teresterial or can it include airplane races?  The Red Bull Air Race World Championship is coming to Texas and I could use some tips.

Thanks.

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All motorsports are ok for me.

As for tips, I am no specialist in plane photography, (some are found on that other topic http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=18673.0) but what I know is that :

- If shooting against a bright sky, you should use either spot metering on the plane or exposure compensation (+2/3 to +1 1/2 should do the trick I think) to tell the metering not to be fooled by the sky's brightness.

- If there is landscape and/or other structures showing, using slow shutter speeds and panning (yes again, I know) can help convey a feeling of speed.

- Don't use very fast shutter speeds as these freeze the propeller motion and make the planes look a bit distressed... I think the low hundredths should be fine but try it out to check.

- Red Bull Air Race = try do take some general ambiance pictures and images of sideshows.

- Post your images for our delight.

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« Reply #115 on: April 02, 2014, 01:26:00 PM »
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Thanks.  I agree about the panning but I didn't play around too long on it as even @f8 and iso 160 I was still getting a shutter speed of 1/640 which is nowhere near slow enough. I already have a new plan for the Friday next year.  High on the mound at turn 9 will allow me to shoot over the fence in one session and then I'll go back to turn 14 for the slightly faster sweeper.  In the meantime - plenty of panning practice!

By the way Roo, I think you tried the Tamron 150-600 at the GP. How did you like it for F1? I'd like to find one for rental for Montreal's GP, otherwise I'll probably rent a 100-400 as I did last year.

The Tammy was fine but I only used it on the Thursday and Friday. On the weekend there are far more people and it just becomes too big to use from my seat.  The 100-400 would be a bit better for that. The focus limiter on it is a good thing but a couple of times it did go hunting but I didn't miss anything because of it.  It tracked well when it was locked on to a subject but there were times when 600 was too much lens.  At turn 14 I could get a really nice head on shot as they turned into the corner and then track them to get the side on shot but at 600 it there was a lot more car than frame lol (see the Ricciardo shot).  I found myself getting down to 300 for the side on shots but from my seat 600 was perfect.

Thanks Roo, I found I wanted a bit more reach than the 100-400 for photographing the grid from my seat and to shoot from the bridge to the casino straight, so I think I can deal with more mm in the long end, that is if I can find a rental Tamron.

As for shooting from the stands, I do have a good seat, but as you said, shooting with a big lens really can get on the nerves of the other attendees. I've had some problems with that already so I sometimes stay in a small enclosure that is restricted to ticket owners but where there are mostly photographers who are more forgiving. Actually, the bigger the lens, the more room you get!
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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #116 on: April 02, 2014, 09:57:42 PM »
Hallo,

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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #117 on: April 03, 2014, 05:59:55 AM »
Hallo,

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Re: Your favourite motorsports events
« Reply #119 on: April 14, 2014, 03:47:39 PM »
I bet no-one gets stuck behind that bus!  ;D
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