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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2014, 11:16:59 PM »
It's January 6th and you've already given up on dslr/lens announcements for the entire year?  Companies announce at different times.
Besides, CES is a consumer show, not a pro show. Notice that Sigma didn't wait til CES to announce the 18-35 and Tamron didnt wait for it to announce the 150-600. Sigma is instead announcing a fairly standard 50mm lens, and a superzoom that is probably <$500.

Canons lens announcements were largely for pro/L lens updates. Those will come outside of the standard shows

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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2014, 11:20:48 PM »
Yay for this part, given all the 50s suck at it except an expensive Nikon. 

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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2014, 11:30:26 PM »
Booyah Yahoo Yippee Hooray Awesome FINALLY ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God I've wanted a sharp wide-open, auto-focusing 50mm 1.4 that isn't over $1k for sooo long.

My copy of the Canon 50 1.4 is sharp in the centre wide-open and I used to believe it wasn't based on many reviews on the web. I went thought 3-4 copies b4 I found a sharp one with my 5d2! I think 50/1.4's bad reputation is mostly focusing related. One can easily test its real optical sharpness under live-view with manual focusing.


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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2014, 11:33:04 PM »
Awesome announcement. I'm going to be very tempted by this 50. But since I already have the 35, I'll wait to see how good the new Canon will be. I'd like to have a couple of high quality primes that aren't so big and heavy. What I really need is a proper 85 and a 135 with IS. They can be big and heavy.

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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2014, 12:11:14 AM »
"Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god!"



I have the EF 50mm f/1.4 and had to have the focusing fixed once, so I'm really hoping this is a good lens.  If nothing else, I hope it forces Canon to release a new 50mm f/1.4, instead of only a 50mm f/1.8 IS, as some of the recent rumors may have implied.
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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2014, 12:20:58 AM »
Well timed! There's the crazy Otus 55mm and then the Nikkor 58mm, both ridiculously priced lenses and I consider the 50L ridiculous as well. Still, can't tell how much Sigma is asking for this lens, and how much better it becomes over it's previous 50. But surely it will not be much more, 50mm lenses are supposed to be the easiest and cheapest of lenses to manufacture! How it appears to be so difficult to make a decently sharp, relatively CA free 50 with good bokeh.... oh, I guess that is asking too much looking back at those expensive 50s... so, will Sigma deliver instead?

I'm more interested in the other potential lenses, such as a fast 24mm, but it's good for Sigma to return to classic areas and getting the basic and popular lenses out as well

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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2014, 12:25:53 AM »

It's as big as the Canon 24-70 F/4L IS.

That is a sign that it has good image quality. Sigma has been making pretty much every lens dream I had come true. If this, a 135mm f/1.8 OS, a 70-200mm f/2.0 OS and a 16-35mm f/2.8 OS, and 24mm 1.4 ii are released then I will run out of dreams. I was just looking to mount a 58 mm 1.4 Nikon to my  5D3 and use manual focus. But now I may not need to.

I want this lens now.

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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2014, 12:36:15 AM »
I use that ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 and fight through its 'hunty' focusing because it delivers sharper images than the 50 F/1.2L (as I rarely shoot wider than F/1.8 ).  From F/2.8 to F/4, it's a super sharp lens, but it has a boatload of limitations.  This Sigma might address a host of them.

I wish this was smaller though. The size of the 35 1.4 is what has kept me from buying it. I want a small and inconspicuous prime. Getting a large lens merely for the f/1.4-2.8 is not worth it (STRICTLY in my case). I WILL buy a smaller Canon 50 f/1.4 if only they give it a darned ring USM!

That lens is a 2014 lens for certain.  It's called Canon's new 50mm non-L.  It will be an 'non-L IS refresh' like the 24/28/35 before it -- ring USM, internal focusing (no length change), better build quality, much sharper, and with IS.  Probably $799 to start and walk down to $599 after the first year (all of the other non-L IS refreshes showed this behavior).

It will be much smaller than Sigma's new offering (I imagine roughly as big as its 'twin', the 35mm F/2 IS), but I would wager not quite as sharp.  But keep in mind that each of the non-L refreshed were big sharpness improvements to their 1990s predecessors, but the 35 F/1.4 Art lens was even sharper than those.  I expect that trend to continue.

So I'm still waiting for that new Canon 50 to stack up against this new Sigma.  If it is only 90% as sharp but has IS and is as small as I think it will be, I'd take the Canon 10 times out of 10.

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Yeah, but the IS is rumored to be 1.8 or even 2. Now, will it be remarkably better than my 50 f/1.8? Dunno, the 35 f/2 IS has had me thinking for the longest time, and I might just pick it up some time, but I wish they kept the f/1.4 and just made the 50mm better- sigh!
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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2014, 12:52:31 AM »
"The new Sigma 50mm F1.4 DG HSM Art has been reengineered and redesigned to set a new standard of performance in the Art line"

Will this out performs my f1.2 L  ::) ::) ::)

Haha Dylan, yes it will, just like the 35mm 1.4L. 20k in gear doesn't make a good photographer.

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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2014, 12:59:42 AM »
"The lens is large and has a complex formula (13 elements in 8 groups)"...the canon 50mm f/1.2L  (has only 8 elements in 7 groups)...is not a GREAT lens...I am hoping that this new Sigma could be the best 50mm with AF for Canon on the market.  This is REALLY exciting news to FINALLY "possibly" have a great normal lens for FF.  I am keeping my fingers crossed here and hoping for the best. My Sigma 35mm Art is da bomb.  Canon has been sound asleep here for many years.
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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2014, 01:00:58 AM »
I'm hoping that this sigma 50 is going to cost somewhere around 699 to be high and 550 to be low. At least for the initial pricing.  Got me thinking though... Depending on the quality of the rumored canon 50 IS lens, these may be competing for consumers wallets head on. The now previous version of the sigma 50 found it's way into my photographers bags over the years. Going to be a very interesting and I think a successful year for sigma if they keep the stunning new line of lenses coming in. Good for all of us photographers. :D
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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2014, 01:02:32 AM »
I'm very happy with my current f/1.4 Sigma - but did anyone notice the maximum magnification ratio of 1:5.6?  The MMR of the current model is only 1:7.4, something I stumble into when I do museums with this lens.

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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2014, 01:07:58 AM »
Well timed! There's the crazy Otus 55mm and then the Nikkor 58mm, both ridiculously priced lenses and I consider the 50L ridiculous as well. Still, can't tell how much Sigma is asking for this lens, and how much better it becomes over it's previous 50. But surely it will not be much more, 50mm lenses are supposed to be the easiest and cheapest of lenses to manufacture! How it appears to be so difficult to make a decently sharp, relatively CA free 50 with good bokeh.... oh, I guess that is asking too much looking back at those expensive 50s... so, will Sigma deliver instead?

I'm more interested in the other potential lenses, such as a fast 24mm, but it's good for Sigma to return to classic areas and getting the basic and popular lenses out as well


Canon 50 F/1.8 = $125
Canon 50 F/2.5* = $299
Sigma 50 F/2.8* = $369
Canon 50 F/1.4 = $399
Sigma 50 F/1.4 = $499
[HUGE OPPORTUNITY SPACE]
Canon 50 F/1.2 = $1,619

* = Generally a macro lens but serviceable as a general AF prime

Showing non-rebate B&H prices here, but you get my drift...  I've left out the manual focus lenses because I don't shoot them, but you could imagine the Rokibowyangs and the Zeiss glass in there if you were so inclined.

And you can see why so many folks are clamoring for a better 50mm option.  Every single lens on that list has issues of one form or another that precludes it from being an 8 or 9 out of 10 at everything sort of lens.  I would argue right now that such a lens does not exist (at least not with autofocus in an EF mount).

So, enter Sigma (today) and Canon (eventually -- my money's on this year) with a 50mm prime that can outclass the field in most metrics and stay under $1,000.  Sigma's playing the Art card and admirably throwing the house at 'horsepower' metrics like speed and sharpness, and Canon (at least of late) has been building less impressive lenses on paper that are awfully well thought through (i.e. the non-L IS refreshes).

I'm curious to see who really earns mindshare and proponents in this focal length.  Will it be the all-things-considered folks or the IQ folks?  We shall see.

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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2014, 01:11:26 AM »
I note that this new Sigma 50/1.4 is being introduced at $900.  Canon's current 50/1.4 (a 20-year-old design) is about $400 or less (BuyDig offered it for $279 recently).  If Canon introduces a new 50/1.4 in the same price range as this Sigma, some people will complain (in online forums) about Canon's pricing ... "They doubled the price!!!".  If Canon introduces a really good 50/1.8 with IS, some people will compare its price to that of the nifty fifty ($125) and scream.  However, a really good 50mm costs some $$$ to build.  That's why the Sigma is $900 and not $400.  That's why the Otus is $4000 and not $400.  Even the manual focus Zeiss ZE 50/1.4 is $725.

If the lens is large and has a complex formula (13 elements in 8 groups)...the canon 50mm f/1.2L  (has only 8 elements in 7 groups)...is not a GREAT lens...I am hoping that this new Sigma could be the best 50mm with AF for Canon on the market.  This is REALLY exciting news to FINALLY "possibly" have a great normal lens for FF.  I am keeping my fingers crossed here and hoping for the best. Canon has been sound asleep here for many years.

I think it's an exciting announcement too.  But I disagree about Canon sleeping.  They've been putting out new lenses steadily, just at other focal lengths; I could make a list of some really good ones.  The 50L is a wonderful lens because of the way it draws -- it's made a lot of my favorite photos.  A lot of photographers like the look.  And it's weather-sealed once you add a filter.  Canon obviously had different design priorities for the 50L than ultimate sharpness.  It does have some faults, so it doesn't please everyone.  I believe they omitted a floating rear element which is what helps make some other lenses so good.  But with that it would have cost even more.  I'm looking forward to seeing how this Sigma will compare.
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Re: Sigma Announces the 50 f/1.4 Art Lens & More
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2014, 01:20:16 AM »
It all depends on the price of both the Sigma and Canon (if we ever see the Canon that is!). I got rid off my 50 1.8 a while ago and have missed having something relatively small and light to use as a walk around lens. The Sigma looks like it might be a bit on the heavy side, prob better suited to studio work than hiking and outdoor activities. For that kinda thing a 50 IS would make more sense. I really love IS, it's a life saver. I don't want to carry a tripod all day for the small possibility that i might need it for one or two low light shots in the evening. Just want a well built 50 that has reliable AF.

I can see both the Canon and Sigma being around the same price, a bit like the 35s.

Canon, the time to announce your 50 1.8 IS is now!
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