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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2014, 04:44:17 PM »
Here is the link to the 2 hour presentation:
Gregory Heisler ILFORD Lecture: Companion to "50 Portraits" Book and Gallery Show February, 2013

And a little bts on the mentioned shot, which goes on more detail about the lighting than the camera gear, as it's from profoto:
MASTER SERIES: Gregory Heisler whiteboards his Rudy Giuliani Time Magazine cover

Thanks for the great lighting video. I had not seen it, and it was very interesting :)
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2014, 04:46:25 PM »
With a Schneider Super-Angulon 165mm f8, you are looking at a 135 format 24mm f1.4 via equivalence, interesting that Heisler puts so much importance on f1.4 instead of f3.5 (the actual 24 TS-E aperture) and a much easier shoot. He really does value that separation only possible through comparative lens speed, even in the T/S. That is a perfect demonstration from a master of the ever finer search for image quality, look, and attention to detail.

So no 135 format lens can match the specifics of the Guiliani portrait, close, but no banana. The 17 TS-E f4 is a comparative oaf for that specific look.

And masters are here to inspire us :) I find it interesting on how (although not with my lens, or skills) you can conceptualize the tying in of a person with some background element that gives symbolic significance.
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2014, 03:04:41 PM »
Dear Quasimodo
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I apologize in advance for my ignorance and probably silly question, but what's the purpose of that strip with circles attched to the lens?
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2014, 04:03:19 PM »
Dear Quasimodo
Welcome to the Club " T&S Club ", Please go to the Link below.
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I apologize in advance for my ignorance and probably silly question, but what's the purpose of that strip with circles attched to the lens?
Thaaks

Not sure if I understand your question?
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2014, 04:06:28 PM »
Dear Quasimodo
Welcome to the Club " T&S Club ", Please go to the Link below.
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I apologize in advance for my ignorance and probably silly question, but what's the purpose of that strip with circles attched to the lens?
Thanks

Not sure if I understand your question?

opps I aplogize
 got the wrong handle/quote link - the question was for Mr Surapon
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2014, 04:11:07 PM »
Dear Quasimodo
Welcome to the Club " T&S Club ", Please go to the Link below.
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I apologize in advance for my ignorance and probably silly question, but what's the purpose of that strip with circles attched to the lens?
Thanks

Not sure if I understand your question?

opps I aplogize
 got the wrong handle/quote link - the question was for Mr Surapon

No problem :) I just was not sure what you were asking about :)
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2014, 04:56:27 AM »
Having read and not understanding the Scheimpflug principle on wikipedia, with its dense and mathematical language; I came over some great articles written by Harold Merklinger. Imo he writes in a pedagogical and clear manner explaining the principle.

http://www.trenholm.org/hmmerk/SHBG05.pdf,http://www.trenholm.org/hmmerk/SHBG06.pdf, http://www.trenholm.org/hmmerk/SHBG07.pdf, http://www.trenholm.org/hmmerk/SHBG08.pdf
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2014, 03:14:22 PM »
Dear Quasimodo
Welcome to the Club " T&S Club ", Please go to the Link below.
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I apologize in advance for my ignorance and probably silly question, but what's the purpose of that strip with circles attched to the lens?
Thanks


Dear Friend , NWPhil.
The Bull eye target  picture( From My BB-Gun Target Practice) , 1- I put at he back of Camera to show the Location of Sensor in the Camera, 3- of the Bull eye targets the Center is show of the Center Location of the Real Photo= at the Right Focus, The Left Bull eye target is show the Tilt of Lens toward the camera sensor( When I tilt the Lens to the Left position) = Make the Left side Details of Photos = Blur,   The Right Bull eye target that show on the photo = move toward the front of the camera, or far away from the sensor, compare with the center bull eye position= that make the right side of the picture are blur. That how to change the DOF in both side of the Photo, and leave the center is  only area is sharp.

Yes, I use this method to show to my Photography/ Camera club, to show them , how it work.
Here is a great Video that I adapt for my class

Using a Tilt Shift Lens: Ep 204: Digital Photography 1 on 1

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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2014, 03:54:59 PM »
Dear Quasimodo
Welcome to the Club " T&S Club ", Please go to the Link below.
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=18845.0
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=807.0
http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=453.0

Enjoy.
Surapon

I apologize in advance for my ignorance and probably silly question, but what's the purpose of that strip with circles attched to the lens?
Thanks


Dear Friend , NWPhil.
The Bull eye target  picture( From My BB-Gun Target Practice) , 1- I put at he back of Camera to show the Location of Sensor in the Camera, 3- of the Bull eye targets the Center is show of the Center Location of the Real Photo= at the Right Focus, The Left Bull eye target is show the Tilt of Lens toward the camera sensor( When I tilt the Lens to the Left position) = Make the Left side Details of Photos = Blur,   The Right Bull eye target that show on the photo = move toward the front of the camera, or far away from the sensor, compare with the center bull eye position= that make the right side of the picture are blur. That how to change the DOF in both side of the Photo, and leave the center is  only area is sharp.

Yes, I use this method to show to my Photography/ Camera club, to show them , how it work.
Here is a great Video that I adapt for my class

Using a Tilt Shift Lens: Ep 204: Digital Photography 1 on 1

Enjoy
Surapon

Dear Mr Surapon,
Thank you for taking the time to explain it so well - yes, it makes sense now
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2014, 04:16:34 PM »
1- I put at he back of Camera to show the Location of Sensor in the Camera,

Your camera comes with an indicator for that, showing where the film/sensor plane is within the camera:
Look for that symbol similar to the greek letter phi:

Φ

the line indicates the plane through the camera
The 5D cameras have that symbol on the left of the viewfinder box, near the mode dial.

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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2014, 04:41:55 PM »
1- I put at he back of Camera to show the Location of Sensor in the Camera,

Your camera comes with an indicator for that, showing where the film/sensor plane is within the camera:
Look for that symbol similar to the greek letter phi:

Φ

the line indicates the plane through the camera
The 5D cameras have that symbol on the left of the viewfinder box, near the mode dial.

Nice to finally know what that symbol means :)
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2014, 04:57:02 PM »
1- I put at he back of Camera to show the Location of Sensor in the Camera,

Your camera comes with an indicator for that, showing where the film/sensor plane is within the camera:
Look for that symbol similar to the greek letter phi:

Φ

the line indicates the plane through the camera
The 5D cameras have that symbol on the left of the viewfinder box, near the mode dial.

Thanks you, Sir, Dear M.
Thanks for Infor..  Yes My Large Bull eye Target just for  Show and tell, In front of the Class, that the Members  can see clear from the back of class room.
Have a good evening, Sir.
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2014, 05:27:11 PM »
The book you want is:

"Using the View Camera - A Creative Guide to Large Format Photography" (Revised Edition)
by Steve Simmons
Amphoto Books
ISBN 0-8174-6353-4 (pbk)

It's a comprehensive guide to using view cameras, but then of course the principles are exactly the same as are involved in the use of tilt-shift lenses. This book will answer all of your questions, comprehensively, without getting excessively involved in the mathematical theory and it's very readable. You can ignore the bits about film. The only thing it won't tell you is not to tighten the locking knobs on Canon's TS-E lenses too much. They're easy to break and expensive (very) to fix.

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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2014, 05:27:11 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2014, 05:36:41 PM »
One day..... that's what my Lensbaby mind tells me. I think the 17 and 24 have both been in my B&H wish list for 2 years!
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Re: Tilt shift for dummies
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2014, 06:23:20 PM »
The book you want is:

"Using the View Camera - A Creative Guide to Large Format Photography" (Revised Edition)
by Steve Simmons
Amphoto Books
ISBN 0-8174-6353-4 (pbk)

It's a comprehensive guide to using view cameras, but then of course the principles are exactly the same as are involved in the use of tilt-shift lenses. This book will answer all of your questions, comprehensively, without getting excessively involved in the mathematical theory and it's very readable. You can ignore the bits about film. The only thing it won't tell you is not to tighten the locking knobs on Canon's TS-E lenses too much. They're easy to break and expensive (very) to fix.

Thanks a lot:) I will get it soon. Nice of you also to point out that one should not tighten the locking screw too hard. I think that I might have, but luckily nothing has broken yet....
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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2014, 06:23:20 PM »