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Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« on: January 14, 2014, 07:15:52 AM »
I don’t want another f/4 lens; I want something faster like an f/2.8 or f/2. Yes I shoot some weddings and the last one I shot I used both my Canon 17-40mm f/4 and my Canon 70-200mm f/4, both good lenses but both are f/4 also the 17-40 is a wide angle lens.

If I had the money I would love to buy the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 II lens, but I also noticed in a previous topic someone mentioned the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 and from my research yes overall the Canon is a better, only just, than the Tamron, but not £1000 better! I am very impressed with what I am reading about Tamron. In terms of quality and performance I am reading that the Tamron fits in between the Canon 24-70 MK1 and the 24-70 MK2.

So I think you get the idea I would like a general purpose lens which is good in low light, f/2.8 is not bad, and one which is more suited to weddings than my 17-40mm. I have read a lot of reviews comparing the Tamron 24-70 to Canon’s and as I have said, the Canon is better than the Tamron but only just and I am very close to buying the Tamron. My dilemma is I love the look of the Canon 135mm f/2, the price is not that much different to the Tamron 24-70. So both are very good lenses but I am not sure which one is best for me right now. I am leaning towards a 24-70mm as it would sit in nicely between my 17-40 and my 70-200, also the fact it is more versatile than the 135mm.

I would appreciate your views on this, thanks!
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« on: January 14, 2014, 07:15:52 AM »

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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 07:29:17 AM »
I don’t want another f/4 lens; I want something faster like an f/2.8 or f/2. Yes I shoot some weddings and the last one I shot I used both my Canon 17-40mm f/4 and my Canon 70-200mm f/4, both good lenses but both are f/4 also the 17-40 is a wide angle lens.

If I had the money I would love to buy the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 II lens, but I also noticed in a previous topic someone mentioned the Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 and from my research yes overall the Canon is a better, only just, than the Tamron, but not £1000 better! I am very impressed with what I am reading about Tamron. In terms of quality and performance I am reading that the Tamron fits in between the Canon 24-70 MK1 and the 24-70 MK2.

So I think you get the idea I would like a general purpose lens which is good in low light, f/2.8 is not bad, and one which is more suited to weddings than my 17-40mm. I have read a lot of reviews comparing the Tamron 24-70 to Canon’s and as I have said, the Canon is better than the Tamron but only just and I am very close to buying the Tamron. My dilemma is I love the look of the Canon 135mm f/2, the price is not that much different to the Tamron 24-70. So both are very good lenses but I am not sure which one is best for me right now. I am leaning towards a 24-70mm as it would sit in nicely between my 17-40 and my 70-200, also the fact it is more versatile than the 135mm.

I would appreciate your views on this, thanks!
Given your needs, the 24-70 would be the best choice.  The 135 is a great lens, but is quite long for most event shooting unless you're a good 30+ feet from the subject (i.e. back of the church, across the room, or behind the first couple of rows of tables at a reception).  The 70-200 (2.8 or 4) IS is going to be better for events, too, as subject motion isn't usually a big deal so IS works well.  The 24-70 is also much more versatile, as you say.  The 135 is best for headshots and candid photos, and while it was my first L (for headshots), it's probably not a great lens to buy until you've got the basics covered.

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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 03:15:08 PM »
The Tamron 24-70! It can double as 112 mm f/2.8 lens on a crop sensor too.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 10:49:50 PM »
I would just save up and get the 24-70mk2 and 70-200mk2. Its the best combo for a wedding photographer. Also maybe add the 100L macro. The last 3 years I've been buying cheaper lenses and selling it to upgrade. If only I should just have started with the 24-70mk1 and 70-200mk2. I could have save a lot more and got better shoots. I got both the 24-70mk2 and 70-200mk2. During the holidays having the double dip promotions. Now I'm set. Now saving up for the 300mm 2.8 II
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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2014, 04:44:53 AM »
I would just save up and get the 24-70mk2 and 70-200mk2. Its the best combo for a wedding photographer. Also maybe add the 100L macro. The last 3 years I've been buying cheaper lenses and selling it to upgrade. If only I should just have started with the 24-70mk1 and 70-200mk2. I could have save a lot more and got better shoots. I got both the 24-70mk2 and 70-200mk2. During the holidays having the double dip promotions. Now I'm set. Now saving up for the 300mm 2.8 II

Thank you mackguyver and mrsfotografie (I'll be using it on my 5D MKII)

Sanaraken, as I said the Canon 24-70 is great, but it's not £1000 better, its a stupid amount of money really when you compare it to the Tamron 24-70. Why do you say save when the Tamron is nearly as good as the Canon?
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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2014, 07:03:11 AM »
I would just save up and get the 24-70mk2 and 70-200mk2. Its the best combo for a wedding photographer. Also maybe add the 100L macro. The last 3 years I've been buying cheaper lenses and selling it to upgrade. If only I should just have started with the 24-70mk1 and 70-200mk2. I could have save a lot more and got better shoots. I got both the 24-70mk2 and 70-200mk2. During the holidays having the double dip promotions. Now I'm set. Now saving up for the 300mm 2.8 II

Thank you mackguyver and mrsfotografie (I'll be using it on my 5D MKII)

Sanaraken, as I said the Canon 24-70 is great, but it's not £1000 better, its a stupid amount of money really when you compare it to the Tamron 24-70. Why do you say save when the Tamron is nearly as good as the Canon?

One could even argue the Tamron is actually better in certain conditions, because it has IS and the Canon doesn't ;)
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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2014, 07:14:04 AM »
I have a Canon 24-70 2.8 II and love it.  That said, from everything I read the Tamron does look like a terrific lens and a excellent value.  As you pointed out, its probably between the Canon 24-70 Mk1 and Mk2 in quality.  You appear to be comfortable with using a third party lens, so I'd say go for it.

I am an amateur with no wedding photography experience, but from what I've read and know about focal lengths I think a 24-70 zoom would be more useful than a 135 overall.

The 135 is a great lens, but is quite long for most event shooting unless you're a good 30+ feet from the subject (i.e. back of the church, across the room, or behind the first couple of rows of tables at a reception). 

Most of my shots with my 135L are head or head and sholder shots at 10-20 feet.  I would think a 135 would be handy for weddings, but not as useful overall as a 24-70.  The 135L can take some "wow" shots that are just not possible with any 24-70 2.8 however...
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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2014, 07:17:46 AM »
That is true mrsfotografie :)
What are the chances of Sigma bringing out a 24-70 f/2 in the next few months?
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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2014, 07:21:22 AM »
I have a Canon 24-70 2.8 II and love it.  That said, from everything I read the Tamron does look like a terrific lens and a excellent value.  As you pointed out, its probably between the Canon 24-70 Mk1 and Mk2 in quality.  You appear to be comfortable with using a third party lens, so I'd say go for it.

I am an amateur with no wedding photography experience, but from what I've read and know about focal lengths I think a 24-70 zoom would be more useful than a 135 overall.

The 135 is a great lens, but is quite long for most event shooting unless you're a good 30+ feet from the subject (i.e. back of the church, across the room, or behind the first couple of rows of tables at a reception). 

Most of my shots with my 135L are head or head and sholder shots at 10-20 feet.  I would think a 135 would be handy for weddings, but not as useful overall as a 24-70.  The 135L can take some "wow" shots that are just not possible with any 24-70 2.8 however...

For the price of the 24-70 II I could get the Tamron 24-70mm AND the Canon 135mm ;) But I think the 24-70mm is the best thing for me at this time, as you say, its more useful.
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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2014, 08:44:12 AM »
Good decision. The Tamron 24-70 is a great lens when it comes to IQ and it's backed by a solid warranty. The VC was a welcome addition for the focal range.

I know there are wedding photographers who use primes instead of the zooms, but then they've got the general-shooting focal length covered by a fast 35mm or 50mm. The advantages of the primes are improved low light capability, lower size and weight, and sometimes better image quality. Those photographers however, have a solid understanding of how the focal length limitations and the venue will influence how they need to work during the course of the day.

Anyway, it seems I've gone off on a tangent but I do believe you're making a sensible choice. The 135L is a great lens but is more specialized, you can always consider getting one further down the line when finances allow for it.
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Re: Canon 135mm or Tamron 24-70mm
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 12:20:22 PM »
That is true mrsfotografie :)
What are the chances of Sigma bringing out a 24-70 f/2 in the next few months?

Nil, but I'm sure they will come with a 24-70 f/2.8 A. Can't say if it will have OS though...
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2014, 02:28:47 PM »
If you are earning money from wedding photography, get the Canon 24-70.  If you only use the lens occasionally, the Tamron may do fine.  There have been a lot of issues about build quality (lack of it) posted.  For the price, its pretty good  optically, but you want the highest reliability for paying jobs.

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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2014, 02:51:37 PM »
Your right StudentOfLight, that is something one day I hope to understand so not going for all primes right now makes sense.

Mt Spokane Photography, at this stage I am not earning a lot of money from photography, not enough to justify spending an extra £1000 on Canon's 24-70mm.
Would like to know where you are reading about these issues, I have read a lot about this lens and people are saying the opposite, the build quality is good, yes not as good as Canon's but still good enough.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2014, 06:29:57 PM »
Depends on what your main next goal is and what style you're approaching I guess.

I have and love the 135. It works great for those environmental sneak up portraits during events. It has a great look and it's just my thing. What I always find odd is that people want faster, non-f/4 lenses for low light. Yes, you can do that too but for me it's primarily about control over DOF.
For everything else there are speedlites etc.
Yes, I know there are those moments at a wedding where you can't use it.

For the standard stuff during the reception your f/4 lenses are just fine I would argue. In fact their benefit is that they are lighter. And you probably shoot at 5.6 or 8 anyway.

Fast primes serve a different purpose in my view.

If you'll do more weddings you could also look at the 100L macro. Serves well for portraits, has IS if you like that and of course is a macro lens for ring shots and other details.
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