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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2014, 12:23:50 PM »
Some bad blood is being spilled at nikon oriented forums  ;D ... over the years I've shot with both Canon & Nikon cameras/lenses and I still shoot with both the systems ... but more with Canon ... recently got the Sony a7 ... from my limited experience, all of them do a great job ... one does better in some situations then the other, but in the end they are all fantastic (but quality control over at Nikon has been pretty crappy in the last few years e.g. SB-900 & D600).
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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2014, 01:09:02 PM »
I'm betting this has as much to do with "trying something new" as anything. If you have many different options available with little to no barrier to using them, and you've only been using one option for a while, you're going to be curious.
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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2014, 01:40:13 PM »
I can see why Nikonians may feel slighted by Kelby. But I have one of his books and he doesn't give Nikon or Canon any greater emphasis over the other. I've always been a Canon shooter and didn't feel he gave preference to Nikon.

He also promotes B&H in the book as well. So he has no problem advertising for someone. And I think that's why he switched to Canon. The 5D MKIII and 1DX have been out for several years and don't think they magically changed overnight.  If he got a great sponsorship package, why not say so? Professionals in many different areas switch teams for similar reasons all the time. He's going to piss-off Nikonians regardless of his reasons.

I always recommend his books for beginners. And that group is the majority of the market.
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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2014, 01:52:17 PM »
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Someonewhoknows says it more eloquently, but basically he switched because he's a whore.

I don't mean any disrespect to Kelby or Canon or whores, for that matter. It's just buyers and sellers. Kelby has a fine training organization, and he's one of the best pitchmen around. Canon wants what he can give, and they've got the money to make it happen.

All the talk about ergonomics, AF, etc. is just stockings, garter belts and crimson lipstick.









OK, let's really discuss this. Canon wants Scott's social media reach. They offered him(the contract reads his company but remember he owns it) a mid 6 figure sum to "sponsor " him. That of course includes a ton of "permanent" loaners(nikon and canon give away very little so you don't sell it but it is loaned forever) but camera gear in the grand scheme of things isn't that much to companies the size of Canon, Nikon or Kelby publishing(in 2007 it was a $20 million a year company, imagine how big it is today http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/products/2007-05-08-kelby-photoshop_N.htm).
Canon and Nikon have been dumping sponsored working pros and replacing them with big social media guys because the average amateur is an internet geek and get their info from non pros like Rick and Scott. Times are changing and he who yells the loudest wins. Kelby isn't a pro and has found a small stock agency to be sponsored by because he gets them a ton of publicity, not because the photos are good(imaging him turning those pictures into SI?) That said he is a GREAT teacher. Absolutely amazing teacher so it makes total sense Canon will pay for that placement. Nikon is a much smaller company and couldn't match that deal. I expect Canon and and on a smaller scale Nikon to be doing more of this in the near future. Fans of both sides want it to be about the cameras but it's not, it's about business.
So let's cut the ergonomics talk and call it what it was, a great business deal for him, his company and Canon.
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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2014, 02:41:56 PM »
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Switching for ergonomics is a weird one to me. After a few months with a camera, you’re used to it and it becomes second nature. I personally fumble around with Nikon’s pro bodies, but that’s because I have been shooting Canon predominantly for a long time. Had I always shot Nikon, I’m sure the opposite would be true.

I'm not so sure about that. While yes, you can get used to any control layout, there is something about Canon's control layout (buttons and dials) that just works better. The only complaint I've had about Canon's button layout is the DOF preview button on my 7D, however that's been fixed with newer DSLR bodies (it's now in the PERFECT place.) When it comes to controlling all the critical settings without ever taking your eye from the viewfinder, Canon 's button layout trounces Nikon's. I can change just about everything without taking my eye from the viewfinder, and without moving my fingers very far from the shutter button. The mechanism by which you switch modes to change things like ISO, flash compensation, AF point selection, etc. is so simple it becomes a procedural memory thing. You can fly through settings changes while your still tracking a subject in motion, and get back to shooting in a heartbeat. That isn't just because you know the system...it's the specific layout. Canon NAILED it. Nikon...they get some things right, and some things wrong (and some VERY wrong.)

This isn't the first time I've heard a Nikon shooter rave about Canon ergonomics. There is something about it that is indeed superior.

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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2014, 02:43:43 PM »
now i hope that puts in perspective what we have to read from amateurs here who tell us for years they gonna switch to nikon.   :D

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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2014, 02:45:15 PM »
Ergonomics... (and a few thousand dollars for direct advertising from Canon  8) )

well better he gets payed by canon then nikon...not?

if you believed him in the past that he gets no money from nikon... what changed? 


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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2014, 03:11:29 PM »
One more thought. Joe McNally shoots Nikon. McNally is big part of the Kelbyone empire (possibly the best-known working professional in Kelby's stable of photographers and Photoshop experts).

I don't know if it would have influenced anything, but it certainly doesn't hurt for the top two Kelbyone photographers to be using different systems.

I also note that a Canon logo now appears on the Kelbyone website, along with a promised member discount that doesn't seem to have been posted anywhere yet.

I have several of Kelby's books and have learned much from his tips and tutorials. I don't imagine he would have switched, purely for money as he doesn't need it. But, I also suspect that if he found a system he preferred, he wouldn't be ignorant of any financial advantages it might present.
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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2014, 03:11:38 PM »
If you listen to and pay attention to Kelby, it's clear that he's a business man first, a Photoshop guy 2nd, and shooting is a distant third at best.  Like many others in this forum, I find it very unlikely that the shooter made the decision; it surely was the business man.

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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2014, 03:16:51 PM »
I remember wanting to switch to a d700+SB900 system because of the nice exposures. I'm glad I didn't .

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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2014, 03:32:02 PM »
... Because Canon is simply the best!!!!  8) ... Period!!!!  8)
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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2014, 03:43:29 PM »
Now he can write a whole new bunch of books about Canon gear... and sell them to Canonites who will happily buy them just because he switched to Canon...

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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2014, 03:50:39 PM »
I don't imagine he would have switched, purely for money as he doesn't need it.

Sure, and professional athletes already making $20 million per year don't sign contracts with other teams to make an extra couple million, because they don't need the money, either.  Right.   ::)

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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2014, 03:56:39 PM »
OK, let's really discuss this. Canon wants Scott's social media reach. They offered him(the contract reads his company but remember he owns it) a mid 6 figure sum to "sponsor " him. That of course includes a ton of "permanent" loaners(nikon and canon give away very little so you don't sell it but it is loaned forever) but camera gear in the grand scheme of things isn't that much to companies the size of Canon, Nikon or Kelby publishing(in 2007 it was a $20 million a year company, imagine how big it is today http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/products/2007-05-08-kelby-photoshop_N.htm).
Canon and Nikon have been dumping sponsored working pros and replacing them with big social media guys because the average amateur is an internet geek and get their info from non pros like Rick and Scott. Times are changing and he who yells the loudest wins. Kelby isn't a pro and has found a small stock agency to be sponsored by because he gets them a ton of publicity, not because the photos are good(imaging him turning those pictures into SI?) That said he is a GREAT teacher. Absolutely amazing teacher so it makes total sense Canon will pay for that placement. Nikon is a much smaller company and couldn't match that deal. I expect Canon and and on a smaller scale Nikon to be doing more of this in the near future. Fans of both sides want it to be about the cameras but it's not, it's about business.
So let's cut the ergonomics talk and call it what it was, a great business deal for him, his company and Canon.

While you might very well be right, I mean who knows... I seriously doubt that it was because Nikon could not match the offerings. Ego*s like I am sure that Scott Kelby has a lot of, tend to be very emotional characters imhe. It does not take more than a new mid-manager who takes him for granted to switch between the two systems.

Now that Kelby has jumped in with Canon with both legs really ties him to a brand. It now becomes really hard for him to switch system without being the laughingstock.
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Re: Why Scott Kelby Switched to Canon
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2014, 04:01:47 PM »
I don't imagine he would have switched, purely for money as he doesn't need it.

Sure, and professional athletes already making $20 million per year don't sign contracts with other teams to make an extra couple million, because they don't need the money, either.  Right.   ::)

Put all the crimson lipstick you want on the pig, it's still about the money.
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