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« Reply #90 on: October 18, 2011, 08:58:26 AM »
Hard drives are dirt cheap. Processing time doesn't matter unless you take photos for a living. Just wait longer.

I agree that there's a decision to be made for many, but I think few in the end will drop $6800 unless their mortgage depends on their pics.

Funny how so many people championed a low-MP solution then disappeared when it was released! Overall, though, I'm a little surprised that Canon seems to be ceding the high-MP solution to MF and Pentax, and possibly Nikon.

They haven't release the 5d III yet. How are they ceding anything.

And it's not meant to be a camera that the majority will buy folks. It's for the agencies / professionals and the rich people that need or can afford it.

38mp files makes a huge difference for editing time wise , you most likely would only use that high for advertising studio work.  Most people who complain about this kinda stuff are the people who don't really need these cameras or functions in the first place. If you need 38 mp sooner than later then get a nikon (honestly who needs it unless they are doing advertising work?). There are cameras for everyone out in the market now and even the lowliest of cameras are better than some professional ones in the past!

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« Reply #91 on: October 18, 2011, 09:01:49 AM »
BTW anyone has any links to the preproduction images floating around that some people are talking about (the ones taken by the cam?)

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« Reply #92 on: October 18, 2011, 09:08:20 AM »
I just pre ordered 3, saving the fourth slot for the studio version when it comes out.
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« Reply #93 on: October 18, 2011, 09:09:47 AM »
I think this is the link, but the pics are tiny. You can't judge anything from the ISO 12800 shot, it's just too small.

http://cweb.canon.jp/camera/eosd/1dx/samples/index.html

Here's the video of the Lord of Darkness doing 14FPS:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/inrsoul/6256207783/
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« Reply #94 on: October 18, 2011, 09:15:26 AM »
1. Thank you CR for giving us great info on this NEW toy

2. Even though this is NOT the camera that I'm waiting for, but I'm VERY happy for all canon users.  ;)


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« Reply #95 on: October 18, 2011, 09:19:54 AM »
It should be interesting to see what technology trickles down from this new body to the 5D3 next year.

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« Reply #96 on: October 18, 2011, 09:20:02 AM »
Funny how so many people championed a low-MP solution then disappeared when it was released! Overall, though, I'm a little surprised that Canon seems to be ceding the high-MP solution to MF and Pentax, and possibly Nikon.

Well, speaking as someone who, as you say, championed a low MP solution.... just because a camera integrates one feature people were hoping for does not mean they will be happy with the whole package.

Looking at this camera, my highest hope for it is that it is popular and thus the used market gets flooded with cameras that meet my needs better, or at minimal meet them at a better price point.  This model includes a bunch of high priced features that I have zero interest in... while I would love the sensor and body, I do not want to pay for all the AF and video stuff they threw in.  A bit too 'all in one' for my interest.


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« Reply #97 on: October 18, 2011, 09:20:59 AM »
Sort of my feelings. 18MP would have been fine, but what about cropping possibilities, especially for those who are used to the densities what 1D Mk4 offered? I personally would have preferred 10fps@the 1D Mk4 crop enlarged to FF meaning ~27 megapixels.

Again, an all purpose camera would rather have been 27MP@10 than 18MP@12fps. The ISO differences would have been the minimum to non-existent on print.

For a quick reality check, Sony can do today 24MP@12fps (available in a couple of weeks), is better data-processing capability wise than the 1Dx, 18MP@12fps.

I am really disappointed, I am under the impression that the Canon new policy is only cost driven with huge support of marketing and shareholder pressure-no passion in that activity. But of course they state that that's a revolution, even if it's kind of little step back in my opinion. If 1dx would be a d3s competitor it will be acceptable and OK for me but....it's a "camera for every purpose" which translates for me as a camera without purpose and no specialisation. Sports,wedding and studiohmmm...strange like car which is aimed to win a professional race and provide great comfort on family trip, it's not possible. I recently switched to canon from nikon  and today i think I made bad decision. Bigger single sensors-it seems for me it makes photos less sharp-I prefer a nikon strategy with no aa filter in d800.  21 mb in 5d2 and 18 in 1dx  also for studio purpose- does not work for me. In general the idea of connecting 1ds and 1d is stupid and only cost driven, probably based on huge losses made by tragic event in production facilities (earthquakes and floods). Where is revolution-in 12 FPS? It's only speeding up processors and memory, no revolution in sensor itself. It's PR and child of marketing camera. Canon has just cut its R&D figures I think.


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« Reply #98 on: October 18, 2011, 09:27:55 AM »
A few thoughts:

-I think this is a stellar move by Canon. They paid attention to the pro customers and made built a camera around whay they said.

-A replacement of the 1Ds only being 18mp seems odd. I'm, personally, fine with it but I think it pretty much proves that Canon will release another camera as a resolution monster. I would assume the 5D3 or something new will be a much higher res camera.

-If I had the money I'd order this camera today. But it could still possibly be too late. We'll have to see what Nikon does but Canon should have done this a year ago (I understand the delay though).

-I saw some comments about the arrangement of the AF points being too close together. There is a limitation to how much you can spread the AF points around. The secondary mirror can only be so big. You pretty much have to cram them all in a set area. On a crop camera the area is even smaller.

I had more but I can't think of it. All in all, bravo Canon.

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« Reply #99 on: October 18, 2011, 09:34:41 AM »
So does this mean that whenever the 5DMIII is announced, it won't be released until March as well?

I really want to upgrade from my t2i, but I'm afraid to get the Mark II since its value will drop dramatically. I need it for Ultra Music Festival in March  :(

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« Reply #100 on: October 18, 2011, 09:46:19 AM »
Bye bye Canon, hello Nikon.

You won't be seeing me here anymore, good luck with new Prosumer 18mp camera kids, and keep an eye on EBay, all my lenses etc will be there soon.

Aren't you overreacting a bit here? Not that I personally think that the features of the new 1D X warrant trading in my 5DII and shelling out several thousands of dollars (especially since I don't do this for a living and don't need to rely on the top notch build quality of the 1-series). I had to chuckle a bit when I read about face detection and saw that the AF points are still all centered around the middle, which still makes me want the M9 rather than a more expensive Canon SLR. But be that as it may - why would it matter if the thing is 21MP, 18MP or 12MP when there is no professional printing technology around that would translate all the data into say, a 8x10 photograph. And I mean photograph, not Office Jet print out. It's all a mute point.

But for now I'm curious to see real life results from the new flagship.
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« Reply #101 on: October 18, 2011, 09:50:56 AM »
The 1DX is a welcome camera but honestly it just feels like they have released two 1D mark IV cameras in a row and a more studio orientated Ds or now maby Xs is still missing?

And if this one is supposed to replace the 1Ds why give it as high as 12fps and give it less resolution than the 4 year old 1ds III

I will still buy one 1dx but im still waiting for a real 1ds replacement. Or if we have reached a roof in MP then go medium format please.

In conclusion this camera is a perfect replacement for the 1DIV but not so for the 1Ds

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« Reply #102 on: October 18, 2011, 09:52:31 AM »
Seriously, what is macfly's eBay ID, I'd like to get some of his L lenses at the right price. I won't begrudge him for his decision to jump ship due to a Canon paper launch and a Nikon rumor (still).
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« Reply #103 on: October 18, 2011, 09:55:15 AM »
This camera seem like an amazing beast with many improvements.  The ISO performance is promissing to be very good.  Even if the ISO 12800 picture on Canon website is small, it does seem light years better then a ISO 6400 picture coming out of my 5D mark II.

However, I am a bit turned off by the price point and the fact it does not offer continuous autofocus in video mode.  I understand purist videographers will prefer manual focusing, but for phot and video enthousiast like myself, I was hoping for that given Nikon already offers it.  I was considering upgrading to the 1DmkIV replacement in the $4-5k range, but now at $6.8k, I just cant justify this.

Lets hope the next few weeks and months will be exciting with Nikon making their move and hopefully Canon responding with a 5DIII...
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« Reply #104 on: October 18, 2011, 09:57:36 AM »
The 1DX is a welcome camera but honestly it just feels like they have released two 1D mark IV cameras in a row and a more studio orientated Ds or now maby Xs is still missing?

And if this one is supposed to replace the 1Ds why give it as high as 12fps and give it less resolution than the 4 year old 1ds III

I will still buy one 1dx but im still waiting for a real 1ds replacement. Or if we have reached a roof in MP then go medium format please.

In conclusion this camera is a perfect replacement for the 1DIV but not so for the 1Ds

So, what if the 5DmkIII moves into the 1Ds spot @ $3500 and we get a new baby-FF for under $2k?

I think the former is likely, the latter may just be wishful thinking.  Something also tells me that the 'pro cinema' event is going to turn up some kind of movie hybrid of the X, but who knows.

Honestly, if people are going to 'threaten to leave' over this particular body, they should go and be done with it.  I certainly wouldn't throw it out of bed for eating crackers ;)
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