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Jack Douglas

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Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« Reply #4230 on: August 12, 2017, 03:18:17 PM »
Very nice shots, Cog. I especially like the second one.   :)

+1 Super in higher resolution

Now here is one from me.  I know, it's pretty bad but I'm posting it to show I'm trying!  I hope to luck out before these guys abandon my pond in a week or three.  I have a good number of almosts - they perch near the pond and then off they go in any direction based on where the but is and it's impossible to know from head orientation or whatever! :(  I can't possibly swing the camera fast enough to track them.

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« Reply #4230 on: August 12, 2017, 03:18:17 PM »

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« Reply #4231 on: August 12, 2017, 07:46:55 PM »
Nice one Jack.
-r

Very nice shots, Cog. I especially like the second one.   :)

+1 Super in higher resolution

Now here is one from me.  I know, it's pretty bad but I'm posting it to show I'm trying!  I hope to luck out before these guys abandon my pond in a week or three.  I have a good number of almosts - they perch near the pond and then off they go in any direction based on where the but is and it's impossible to know from head orientation or whatever! :(  I can't possibly swing the camera fast enough to track them.

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Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« Reply #4232 on: August 12, 2017, 07:53:51 PM »
Nice shot, Jack.   :)

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Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« Reply #4233 on: August 14, 2017, 02:39:07 AM »
Thanks guys but I'm not satisfied and spent another two hours to get one slightly better shot.  I hope one day to have a truly nice one if they stick around.  For now lunch time is 2 - 4 PM and I'm stuck with the half decent but not great lighting of that time, depending on where I sit.  ISO 3200+ is never going to be the best but hey, I'm seeing a lot of fun action including another bath.

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« Reply #4234 on: August 14, 2017, 02:45:46 AM »
That's a good'un Jack.
What shutter speed were your running at? I would normally have 1/2,000 as a minimum

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« Reply #4235 on: August 14, 2017, 02:58:32 AM »
That's a good'un Jack.
What shutter speed were your running at? I would normally have 1/2,000 as a minimum

1650 and that's pushing my ISO's up with 400 X2.  I need to experiment with higher shutter regardless.  Sometimes I luck out with better sunlight.  These guys are extremely challenging for me but I'm scheming and learning a little more of their behaviour which isn't predictable for the most part.

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« Reply #4236 on: August 14, 2017, 03:54:11 AM »
Brilliant shot!
Amazing.
-r

Thanks guys but I'm not satisfied and spent another two hours to get one slightly better shot.  I hope one day to have a truly nice one if they stick around.  For now lunch time is 2 - 4 PM and I'm stuck with the half decent but not great lighting of that time, depending on where I sit.  ISO 3200+ is never going to be the best but hey, I'm seeing a lot of fun action including another bath.

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« Reply #4237 on: August 14, 2017, 04:13:10 AM »
Hi Jack - 1/1600 is pushing it and it does come down to whether you want less IQ because of ISO or blur because of shutter speed. With the 1Dx2 I am coming down to getting the shutter speed at all costs. Provided you don't need to crop too much I think 6400 or 8000 is pretty acceptable for my eyes. This shot of a grebe was at 25,600 cropped to 70% of the original - the plain background helps a lot with apparent sharpness but I think it shows what ridiculous ISOs you can go to nowadays.

The other challenge with these critters is whether the AF can keep up with them, and I would be tempted to try zone AF hoping it does not pick up the background instead. Mind you, you can have large zone AF with the option to select the first AF point - have you experimented with that yet? I am just starting to with mixed results so far.

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Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« Reply #4238 on: August 14, 2017, 12:11:38 PM »
Hi Jack - 1/1600 is pushing it and it does come down to whether you want less IQ because of ISO or blur because of shutter speed. With the 1Dx2 I am coming down to getting the shutter speed at all costs. Provided you don't need to crop too much I think 6400 or 8000 is pretty acceptable for my eyes. This shot of a grebe was at 25,600 cropped to 70% of the original - the plain background helps a lot with apparent sharpness but I think it shows what ridiculous ISOs you can go to nowadays.

The other challenge with these critters is whether the AF can keep up with them, and I would be tempted to try zone AF hoping it does not pick up the background instead. Mind you, you can have large zone AF with the option to select the first AF point - have you experimented with that yet? I am just starting to with mixed results so far.

Thanks Mike.  Yes I'm kind of fighting all the various trade offs just like you. 

The AF can't keep up with these guys with large zone but it does offer one advantage.  If you lock onto the subject you can then move the frame off to the side with hopes that the action will occur in the direction you've left the space since panning at the speed they are going is for me, mere mortal, impossible.  Today my idea is to set up the tripod and try some 4K video and frame grabs.

There also is no hope of me getting this action as close as required to allow ISOs like 12500.  At 800 mm, I'm cropping to increase the size of the subject.  This shot was more forgiving by luck, auto ISO was lower.  The lighting is so variable that I'm auto ISO

Yes, Riley whatever I may be able to post is nothing but luck - well, coupled with perspiration and aching left arm muscles - close to tendonitis. ;)  This is totally outside of my ability!  O course I won't tell my friends around here that. ;)

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« Reply #4239 on: August 14, 2017, 01:16:49 PM »
Just between you and I, Jack, there is a lot of things that is pure luck.  It's our secret.
Blood, sweat and tears are only for the failures!!!
Just keep at it.
-r

Thanks Mike.  Yes I'm kind of fighting all the various trade offs just like you. 

The AF can't keep up with these guys with large zone but it does offer one advantage.  If you lock onto the subject you can then move the frame off to the side with hopes that the action will occur in the direction you've left the space since panning at the speed they are going is for me, mere mortal, impossible.  Today my idea is to set up the tripod and try some 4K video and frame grabs.

There also is no hope of me getting this action as close as required to allow ISOs like 12500.  At 800 mm, I'm cropping to increase the size of the subject.  This shot was more forgiving by luck, auto ISO was lower.  The lighting is so variable that I'm auto ISO

Yes, Riley whatever I may be able to post is nothing but luck - well, coupled with perspiration and aching left arm muscles - close to tendonitis. ;)  This is totally outside of my ability!  O course I won't tell my friends around here that. ;)

Jack

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Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« Reply #4240 on: August 15, 2017, 04:44:56 PM »
Juvenile Swallow at Uphill Boat Yard - Weston-super-Mare, UK.

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Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« Reply #4241 on: August 15, 2017, 11:53:08 PM »
Juvenile Swallow at Uphill Boat Yard - Weston-super-Mare, UK.

Cool pose!!

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« Reply #4242 on: August 16, 2017, 01:16:12 AM »
Juvenile Swallow at Uphill Boat Yard - Weston-super-Mare, UK.

Cool pose!!

Jack

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« Reply #4242 on: August 16, 2017, 01:16:12 AM »

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« Reply #4243 on: August 16, 2017, 01:34:51 AM »
Better light today but still ISO 2000.

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« Reply #4244 on: August 16, 2017, 01:53:49 AM »
Better light today but still ISO 2000.

Jack
Like the flight pose and the green background Jack
I hope they stick around for a little while longer for you :)

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