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Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« on: January 29, 2014, 08:54:37 PM »
Dear Friends and Teachers.
I have read " Fred Miranda has completed his review of the Sony A7R camera body using Canon EF lenses.
Read the full review | Sony A7R at B&H Photo"   from front page of CR.,  and start to hit center of my heart that Why Canon not do like this too, Yes, I am waiting for Canon 3D= 36 + MP, or Canon 1DS MK IV = 36 + MP for many years already, BUT Canon do nothing like this.  Yes, I check the Price of Sony Alpha a7R at B&H = $ 2,298 US Dollars + Canon EF Lens adapter = $ 350 US Dollars = Total  $ 2,648 US Dollars = Super Cheap compare to Canon Top Line 1DX MK I.
Yes, Sir, My stupid question ( I have GAS./ Gear Acqisittion Syndrome  Illness  NOW) is= I should wait another 6-9 months to get the Canon  36 MP. or Jump the ship to buy Sony Alpha a7R now ???.

YES, Sir, The More I use Canon EOS-M past 3 weeks, The More I love the Size of Tiny EOS-M, and the quality of the photos of this tiny camera.---And Sony Alpha a7R ( have eye AF control like my Old Canon A2E too) is a lot smaller than Canon 1Dx too.
 Thanks for your answer, Sir.
Surapon
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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2014, 09:16:56 PM »
I don't think Canon will make one of these.... thats just my opinion.

Listen man, we can't deter you from your GAS.
If you really want it, and you have the money for it, go for it!

If you want to try it out, there is always an option of renting before buying.

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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2014, 09:19:06 PM »
I fully agree. I waited and waited and waited, but Canon did not deliver.

I bought the A7R a couple of weeks ago and I could not be happier. The resolution, dynamic range and overall IQ of this camera is stunning, and miles ahead of my 5D3 and the 1DX!

AF performance isn't exactly top notch, but it is more than good enough for me. My models are not jumping around, and the landscapes are standing still. ;)

Who knows how long it will take Canon to release a high resolution body at a decent price? :P They also need to up their dynamic range and fix the horrible shadow banding.
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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2014, 09:20:43 PM »
Dear friend Surapon. I do not think prudent to replace a reliable "camera system", for others who have known advantages, and disadvantages yet to be discovered. However, nothing prevents you from buying another camera (if money is no problem) and have fun with her to find out how reliable it can be. Currently the availability of lenses and accessories A7r is very restricted, but in the future may meet their needs. However, the reports of those who used this camera show limitations in flexibility and agility, which make it necessary a backup from another camera known in your neck, to make it possible use without fear in events where one can not repeat the moment.
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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2014, 09:52:17 PM »
I should wait another 6-9 months to get the Canon  36 MP. or Jump the ship to buy Sony Alpha a7R now ??? .

Mr. Surapon,

There is no harm or shame in trying new hardware if you can afford it.  If you buy the camera please share your photos with us.  My request to you is this: some of those with G.A.S. tend to acquire hardware they don't use, or rarely use; if you find that it is collecting dust on a shelf, please sell it to someone who will use it.

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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2014, 10:03:58 PM »
This looks like an excellent tool to have in the bag.  I wouldn't get rid of my 5DIII for it, but this is something that I would love to have along with my 5DIII.  I've got lots of lenses that I use for different things, and I love to use the right tool for the right job.  This is a camera I wouldn't hesitate to use for portrait or scenic photos.  Combine it with some nice Zeiss glass, and I'd be in heaven :)

But when I go out to play in the snow, and my daughter is chasing me with a bucket of snowballs while I run backwards aiming my camera in her general direction and pressing the shutter button, I want my 5DIII w/ the 70-200mm IS II :)


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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2014, 10:39:37 PM »
Sony A7 or A7r is a perfect weapon for landscape & street photography.

One advice, get the Zeiss FE 55mm f1.8. They will release Zeiss FE 24-70mm f4 IS, which I think it will be perfect from landscape to street photography.

PLEASE DON'T PUT CANON L lenses on this beauty :-\
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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2014, 10:52:57 PM »
Yes, it's very tempting to invest into Sony's camera these days. So many excellent reviews on different websites. Today I've read about the DxOmark (yeah, I'm aware about some concerns how they rate the lenses) rated the Zeiss 55 1.8 FE lens very close to 55 1.4 Otus.

Mr. Surapon, I am definitely not as experienced as many folks here. Others can correct me if I'm wrong but I think that your Canon lenses won't work as good on Sony as on Canon cameras. If I buy Sony camera, it will probably be a successor of alpha a99, which will be released within the next few months. In this case, I will have both Canon + Canon lenses and Sony + Sony/Zeiss lenses.

P.S. One of the folks on sonyalpharumors.com posted this comment. Some things to keep in mind before investing into Sony.

Sony will be in big trouble soon. How I know this? Because of big indicators.

* Sony cutting camera budget, Sony EMCS laying off up to 40% of workers at Kohda.
* Sony officially cut pipeline concept of 5 A-mount cameras for 2014 down to 1.
* Sony cancel development work on 400/4 and 24-105/4 lens and sell future development rights back to Olympus
* Sony no more advertize for A-mount in any USA product space (magazine, in store, etc). Advertize was always weak spot for Sony, but now budget is removed completely.
* Sony removed $2.5 million of R&D budget for FY2014 for ILC camera (Both A- and E-).
* Sony contract of CMOS sensor sales with Nikon ends in March and rumor heard is will not renew.
* Sony using many more plastics in new camera than before to cut costs. Repair rate up 14% due to cheap matirial.
* Sony continue move production to Thailand and quality suffer more.

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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2014, 10:59:26 PM »
PLEASE DON'T PUT CANON L lenses on this beauty :-\

Why?  Shouldn't the owner use whatever combination of hardware is needed for a particular purpose?

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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2014, 11:06:59 PM »
Dear Friends and Teachers.
I have read " Fred Miranda has completed his review of the Sony A7R camera body using Canon EF lenses.
Read the full review | Sony A7R at B&H Photo"   from front page of CR.,  and start to hit center of my heart that Why Canon not do like this too, Yes, I am waiting for Canon 3D= 36 + MP, or Canon 1DS MK IV = 36 + MP for many years already, BUT Canon do nothing like this.  Yes, I check the Price of Sony Alpha a7R at B&H = $ 2,298 US Dollars + Canon EF Lens adapter = $ 350 US Dollars = Total  $ 2,648 US Dollars = Super Cheap compare to Canon Top Line 1DX MK I.
Yes, Sir, My stupid question ( I have GAS./ Gear Acqisittion Syndrome  Illness  NOW) is= I should wait another 6-9 months to get the Canon  36 MP. or Jump the ship to buy Sony Alpha a7R now ???.

YES, Sir, The More I use Canon EOS-M past 3 weeks, The More I love the Size of Tiny EOS-M, and the quality of the photos of this tiny camera.---And Sony Alpha a7R ( have eye AF control like my Old Canon A2E too) is a lot smaller than Canon 1Dx too.
 Thanks for your answer, Sir.
Surapon
Dear Surapon,

I have the Sony a7+28-70 (recently purchased the ZEISS 24-70 f/4, but it won't arrive till 9th February) and with my limited experience of having used it, and having tried all my EF lenses, for about 50 days or so, I feel its a fantastic camera for ultra wide angle and general purpose photography ... beyond that it is no match for a 5D MK III. Personally I am thinking about getting the a7R as well, to permanently have my 16-35 f/2.8 L II lens mounted for landscape photography (i.e. it would only be used for landscape photography and nothing else) ... by the way, when you say "Jump ship" do you mean 'sell all your Canon gear and go with the Sony a7/a7R'? if so, you might be very disappointed ... but if you meant that it would be complimenting your existing Canon gear, then yes, it makes a perfect setup. If you like the EOS-M, you will like the Sony a7/a7R even more ... buy it if you are going to use it for landscape and general purpose/walk-around setup.
Happy shopping ... it helps relieve GAS, temporarily ;D
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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2014, 11:08:23 PM »
Sony A7 or A7r is a perfect weapon for landscape & street photography.

One advice, get the Zeiss FE 55mm f1.8. They will release Zeiss FE 24-70mm f4 IS, which I think it will be perfect from landscape to street photography.

PLEASE DON'T PUT CANON L lenses on this beauty :-\
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Not even a TS-E 17mm or 21mm???  It's not the compactness but the sensor capability and ability to take on Canon lenses which is why this camera is popular among Canon shooters. Ditto to Sony system users. For most, acquiring new lenses isn't even an option.  It's just a stop-gap till Canon produces one that can rival that 36mp Sony sensor and it's only mostly for landscape and studio shooters.  For the rest, 1dx, 5d3 and 6d are still the best option...

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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2014, 11:17:52 PM »
It's just a stop-gap till Canon produces one that can rival that 36mp Sony sensor and it's only mostly for landscape and studio shooters.  For the rest, 1dx, 5d3 and 6d are still the best option...
+1 ... I struck off "studio shooters" not because I disagree but because I have absolutely no experience with studio photography and I don't use my a7 for that purpose, but for landscape work, this little camera rocks 8)
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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2014, 05:12:29 AM »
Surapon - you should do whatever makes you happy. If you have the money then yeah why not. I would. How many cameras is too much? Pah! One for each day off the week I say!

I get what Dylan777 is saying. To get the best from the camera you're better off using native lenses. But you can also use your Canon glass as a little bonus, no harm!

I wouldn't sell your 5D3 and replace it with the Sony A7r. They serve different purposes. One for things that move and one for things that don't!

Personally, I think this may be (flame on and ready folks) Sony's swan song in a way. Their last ditch effort of a partially sinking ship. I really hope I'm wrong as I love Sony products but all evidence is pointing to a financial meltdown. I think they released these bodies too early in a "give it all she's got Scotty" kinda way. They're marvelous yes but there is little support and shaky confidence that it will be available in the not too distant future.

At the same time Canon are taking their sweet time. Why? Because they can afford to!
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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2014, 06:32:05 AM »
Studio and landscapes have different requirements from nature and bird photography. For bird photography, we use high iso and the best telephotos we can afford. Canon wins hands down on the lenses (Metabones adaptors aren't good on fast AF)), and their sensors are fine at high iso. If I need more megapixels, I use a crop body like the 70D, which has a pixel density equivalent to a 51.7 mp FF. However, a 36 mp sensor on the 5dIII would give an extra 28% of reach if IQ was not lowered.
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Re: Will I jump ship to " Sony Alphe a7R " for 36 MP camera ?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2014, 08:21:21 AM »
Some time latter in the year I plan on replacing my Nex 6 with a Sony a7R.  Having used the Nex 6 for over a year now I can say that Sony Emount system is a good complement for Canon users.  Canon lens are a little cumbersome when it comes to auto focus on a Sony.  But the focus peeking for manual focus lens is fantastic.  My Nex 6 is the easiest camera to manual focus I have ever used. 

It will only be good for standard landscape to around 135mm anything longer the logistics will get brutal.  But still better than a normal Canon M.  The battery grip helps ergo. 

I plan on using it for landscape and standard photography mostly with vintage lens.  But I am keeping my Canons for moving subjects.
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