I'd go with the 70D as well given that is compliments all of the "weaknesses" of the 6D.
-Crop sensor for extra reach
-Faster FPS and better AF for action
-Articulated screen which is really useful for event photography and general avoidance of laying on the ground.
However selling your 24-105mm to pay for the new body kind of mitigates a lot of those benefits because the lens selection you're left with (other than the extra reach for the 100mm L Macro) isn't really well suited to take advantage of the those complimentary advantage the 70D would get you. Plus you'd have sold the zoom lens that your wife would probably have found the most use out of since she likes zooms better and the 17-40 is probably not versatile enough for her needs.
Plus you say you can find situations where you could need the 5D3's capabilities over the 6D. the difference between the two cameras is AF and FPS which is exactly what you'd get with the 70D as a complimentary body.
If you can keep the 24-105mm and get the 70D i think that's the best way to go.
If the funds were still too tight then if it were me i'd still keep the 24-105mm and get a refurbished 60D.
Thanks for your response. You're very right, the 70d compliments the 6d very well. I'm leaning towards that. Also, I've reconsidered selling my 24-105. I initally thought about selling it because I NEVER use it.... the lens just sits in my bag literally all the time. That may change with a 2nd body.
I'm one of those people that always would want to shoot with the best camera that I have, so if I got the same camera this dilemma wouldn't be an issue. My 450D is collecting dust.
Every time I seem to make a decision, I read a post like this haha! Thanks for responding, the 6D is still in contention.
I upgraded from the Rebel XTi to the 6D about a year ago, primarily because I outgrew the XTi and needed a camera that could do more. A few months after upgrading, my XTi got wet and died during a trip to Iceland so I've been looking for a 2nd camera body for my wife.
A little about my shooting style, I mostly shoot landscapes, night photography and portraits (also macro but not as much). My wife and I travel a lot, so street photography (and low light) is also part of our shooting style. I do events every now and then, but it's not my focus and is usually done at the request of family/friends. I can't say I don't like shooting fast action (sports)/wildlife because I've never really tried (I'm sure if I did I would like doing that as well). If you're interested to see photos, click here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97429425@N05/
A little about my gear, I have a 35L, 17-40L, 100L macro, and the 24-105L (which I'm going to sell to help pay for this new body). The 35L was the last lens I bought, and I realized I liked shooting with primes over zooms. My wife is the opposite, she likes the versatility of zooms.
Anyway, I'm down to 3 different cameras, the 70d, 5D Mark iii, or another 6d. Price is definitely a consideration, but I'd rather spend a little more (or a lot) to get the right camera. I've looked at enough spec reviews and sample photos to know the difference among all 3 cameras. My shooting style screams 6d (and the fact that I really love my current 6d), however my wife's shooting style is suited more for the 70d. She really wants the rotating screen, and I think the new touch screen focus system of the 70d is a major advantage. Also, she isn't into learning the technical side of photography as I am, so having a 70d that has a few advanced features but is simple to use is also a plus. I think the 7fps of the 70d would only get used every once in a great while. For me the 5diii is still under consideration (in that case, my wife would use my 6d), but it does cost an arm and a leg. I'm not going to get into the 5diii specs, but there are times when I'm shooting where I could benefit from some of the 5diii's capabilities.
That being said, I was interested in getting user opinions on real world shooting, not a spec comparison. Thanks ahead of time for your thoughts!
My suggestion is 6D - same ergonomic and setting. Plus all your lenses are L. No benefits to stay with crop, except reach.
OFF TOPIC: my sister in law recently bought 3ti and she doesn't how to operator the camera. She asked me to show her camera setting(since I'm a Canon expert, shooting with 5D III ). Well, that didn't go well. I was confused with the layouts for good 15-20mins
Hi Dylan777. Thanks for your response. The different layout shouldn't be that big of a problem. I used a friends T2i for the first time while shooting an event (my backup camera at the time died) and I was able to get comfortable with that in about 15 min of shooting. I agree though that having the same ergonomics and settings would be a big benefit (also, the learning curve with my wife would be with just one camera).
I'd recommend a second 6D. Same form factor, great IQ, reasonably priced, and light - so good for travel since you travel a lot. Since it's the same camera, just need to learn one set of controls, simplifies things. The extra $$ you'd spend on a 5D Mark III you can put into lenses. Since your wife likes zooms, I'd rec'd the new 24 - 70 II, which is tack sharp and rivals primes. Doesn't have the reach of the 24 -105 though but better IQ. On the other hand, the resale value of the 24 - 105 is plummeting, might be a consideration to hold it. Then I'd rec'd the 70 - 200 f/4 IS. Lighter than the 2.8.
Sigh... Thanks for your recommendation. Again every time I seem to make a decision, I read a comment like this haha. But you're right, I think having to teach one set of camera settings to my wife rather than two is important. I'd love to have the new 24-70 ii or the 70-200 f4. In time...
T5i or SL1. Much lighter and smaller. Those were my main points when buying a backup to my 6D.
The 70D burst speed is freaking amazing. But it's still a brick like the 6D. If you're lugging it around for street photography I'd go with the SL1 and an 18-55 STM (or 40 2..
Thanks for you comment batotman. I looked into the t5i. I do like the smaller size, though I'm not going to get another rebel. I think we're both comfortable with the 6D/70d size/weight for street photography.
I was shooting with a 5D3 and a 7D as a second body. I often shoot with two bodies. Recently, I replaced the 7D with another 5D3. Note that I still have a 60D. The feature "benefits" of the 7D and 60D -- high FPS, extra reach, articulating screen --paled when compared with the benifits of full frame. And, I reaaly liked the articulating screen. My 5D3 is sharper, has more color latitude, is better in low light, and yields smaller DOF. But, you know this.
The 5D3 is a step up from the 6D for action. For me, this was a must. If you don't find the 6D focus system to be limiting for what you shoot, then get another 6D. Down the road, I think you would find the 70D to be a dissapointment becuase it still is a step down in IQ. Plus, when switching bodies, it is nice that both have identical controls.
Also, keep the 24-105 for your wife. If you were to go with the 70D and you wife wants a good zoom, then you afe looking at the 17-55 f2.8 which is a GREAT crop body lens. But, the 6D/24-105 is a sharper and more versatile kit than the 70D/17-55.
I'm using the 7D and the 60D as "training tools" to help my wife and kids get more comfortable shooting in manual or AV and with back-button focussing. Also, using them to encourage more selective use of ISO. This way, they will be more comfortable shooting with one of my 5D3s if I need their help or if they want more out of their shots. My bet is that the 6D will be just as easy to learn the craft as the 70D is. The only caveat is whether video is a high need. Then the 70D might be more attractive.
Next to a 5D MkII, the 7D is a disappointment image quality-wise so I sold it and got a 5D MkIII instead. So to the OP I would suggest getting another full frame camera as some others have suggested. (Say 5DMKII).
Hi mrsfotografie. Thanks for your response. I also thought about getting the 5Dii and 7d. When you say the 7d is a disappointment image quality wise, can you elaborate? Do you have sample photos where a full frame would have worked better? BTW, I think the 7d gives great images.
1st choice for 2nd body, same as the first.
2nd choice, if using a FF for the first and desire a crop for the 2nd for reach, use the body with the most similar ergonomics and best high ISO noise control.
Yip to both, in that order, as well. And I would add batteries that are the same to the "2nd choice" option as essential.
Thanks for your response. I'd love to have the same menu settings/ergonomics. I haven't thought about this point as much earlier but will consider it more.