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Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« on: February 05, 2014, 11:06:56 AM »
Went out to look for contrasting architecture.
Using 6D with Canon 24mm TS/E II, I got the following two, that I want to share here.

Location: Central Copenhagen, Denmark.
Both are using only the shift (not the tilt) capability of this great lens.
Both covers same subject matter: An old church reflected in modern office buildings.

1. ISO 100, 1/320s, f/8      - I like the layers of visibility: Direct, inside building, through building, reflection
2. ISO 400, 1/500s, f/7.1   - I like the lines

Any comments much appreciated.
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Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« on: February 05, 2014, 11:06:56 AM »

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Re: Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2014, 07:54:24 PM »
Very nice! I like!
Good concept, well executed, both images grab the eye for a pause and a ponder, can't ask much more than that of an image.
 
Since so much of both images is the reflections, I do wonder what effects might have been possible using a polarizer, might have been fun though polarizers are tough to please at wide angles.
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There's a  24mm TS/E II in my B&H shopping cart for my 6D, you're making want haste in checking out.
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Got any more fine reflections?
 
 

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Re: Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2014, 10:49:18 PM »
I really like #2.  IMHO #1 has a little too much going on for my taste.  The question of potential impact of polarizer is interesting... generally I believe a polarizer would tend to kill reflections; but, it may be a way to adjust the intensity of the reflected image vs. the direct image.
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Re: Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2014, 11:45:18 PM »
Went out to look for contrasting architecture.
Using 6D with Canon 24mm TS/E II, I got the following two, that I want to share here.

When you were using this lens, what technique did you use to straighten the lines--an electronic grid, or a grid on a special focus screen?  How hard was it to correct?  I've been curious about this, don't have much experience with TS-E lenses.

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Re: Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2014, 12:07:33 AM »
Very nice compositions - and doesn't the snow on the steps of #1 just make the step inclusion work!

#2 equally nice, I think you need to pull the vertical just a bit straighter....

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Re: Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2014, 06:12:11 AM »
Thank you all for your feedback - and your time spent 'reading' my images.

Regarding reflections and potential use of polarizer: I had the same consideration, and decided not to pursue this, as I wanted strongest possible reflections (the polarizer in my view would weaken / remove these) - and by the way I do not have the CPL in 82mm, which this lens requires.
Any ideas on how to use a CPL to strengthen the refelction?

To old-pr-pix: Thank you for your comments re. #1 vs #2.  I agree on #1 being more busy, while #2 is cleaner and has stronger lines. However I can not decide which I prefer, as #1 has more variation and interesting colour-play going on, which I also like.

To wtloyd: Thank you for commenting on the patches of snow on the steps. They played a role in my choice of pov.

Regarding technique: I ensured the tripod was level, then set the lens at zero shift and made sure that my line of view was horisontal (in live view checking that vertical lines were actually vertical), then shifted the lens upwards to include the composition, that I wanted.
Additional info: In Lightroom I actually made a small correction for vertical alignment of #2. And must agree, that it is still not perfect in the right part of the image. So room for a bit more adjustment.

Main advantage of TS/E for me here has been:
 - you get very close to perfect vertical lines even when you want to compose 'upwards'
 - you can create a composition using the full sensor (no need to crop away e.g. a lot of uninteresting ground)
 - a lens that is very sharp right out to the corners (you loose some of that advantage, when you shift a lot)
 - it calls for a very slow and careful process, which in turn makes me more aware of my composition-choices
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Re: Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2014, 10:16:47 AM »
Light is funny stuff, polarized light is even funnier.
 
When using a polarizer, light polarized on one axis is blocked, light polarized around 90 degrees differently passes. All that shifts around as the filter is rotated.
 
As polarized light reflects off some (maybe all) surfaces, its polarization shifts.

In a situation like the photos above, there are multiple reflective surfaces, so, there will be multiple polarized angles involved.
 
While there is no way that I can evaluate what polarizations were present in the shots above, it might have been possible, for example, to reduce the prominence of the upper, through the building window lights while at the same time enhancing the reflections off of the front of the building. Objects just inside the building face may have remained visible, maybe not.
With so many reflective surfaces, I think there were a lot of possibilities.
 
The only thing one could have done, had a polarizer been available, would have been to experiment, see what effects were possible, probably shoot several combinations, choose according to taste later.
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Before considering buying a CP for a 24mm or wider lens, see this page......
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Circular-Polarizer-Filters.aspx
Note especially the comments regarding The 90° angle and also Uneven Skies.
The uneven skies phenomenon occurs because the lens allows in such a wide angle field of view that there is a polarization change across the scene. Note also that the area filtered by the polarizer can be shifted for sometimes pleasing end results.
I'm not expecting the same gratification regarding sky effects when using a polarizer on a 24mm as I have experienced with longer focal lengths.
 
Farther down on the page is a photo of a boat including some sky and many surfaces both curved, angled and flat. Mouse over the text directly beneath the boat to see effects of the polarizer. Also keep in mind that anywhere between is possible, that's the photographer's creative choice.
The principles demonstrated in that boat photo are those I expect might well have been available for experimentation in the photos above.
 
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Yes indeed, the snow on the steps in the first shot does add to the overall image and pleasantly.
 

 
 
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Re: Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
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Re: Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 11:12:40 AM »
hi again.
I went out again looking for contrasts in architecture.
These two modern neighbouring buildings shows just that.

This time using 70-200mm L f/4.0 IS. (So the Subject does not fit completely anymore, but would not open a new)

1.  A close-up on the contrast.      FL: 121mm, ISO=400, 1/320s, F/9.0
2. Full body shot of the buildings. FL: 100mm, ISO=400, 1/125s, f/10.0

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Re: Architectural Contrasts - with 24mm TS/E and 6D
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2014, 11:12:40 AM »