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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 10:29:00 AM »

IQ? - nowhere near the 28-300L, BUT if the IQ is similar to the 70-300 IS USM, then this could be a lense that causes a bit of trouble in the market place.

Shame Tamron haven't released anything else recently that puts the cat amongst the pigeons  ;)

I would not be so sure about your first statement. The 28-300 L is now 10 years old. 150-600mm :)
Given the size & zoom range of this lens, there is  no way in hell  this Tammy can match 28-300 L optics ... if it is better than the 28-300 L, I will give you my Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC for free (excluding the cost of shipping out to you) and I mean it.

Deal :D

You just put yourself in a very dangerous situation, since "optical performance" can be intended in a number of very ambiguous ways - e.g. contrast, sharpness, CA, bokeh, fringing, etc etc :)
No problemo sir ... if this Tamron beats the Canon EF 28-300 L IS in any 3 (which must include sharpness) of the 5 parameters you've mentioned here i.e. Contrast, Sharpness, CA, bokeh, fringing, I promise to give you my Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC for free (provided you pay for the shipping costs).

Check this out:
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Canon-EF-28-300mm-F35-56L-IS-USM-on-Canon-EOS-1Ds-Mark-III-versus-28-300-3.5-6.3-XR-I-A-Canon___595_436_211_0

Click ->measurements ->Sharpness->Field map

According to DXO's measurements the old Tamron28-300 (which I have) is sharper throughout the focal range
than the Canon "L"...
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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 10:29:00 AM »

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2014, 10:32:03 AM »
Given the size & zoom range of this lens, there is  no way in hell  this Tammy can match 28-300 L optics ... if it is better than the 28-300 L, I will give you my Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC for free (excluding the cost of shipping out to you) and I mean it.

Canon 28-300 weighs 1670 g while Tamron weighs 540 g. I will never consider Canon's offering regardless of its performance.

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2014, 10:32:43 AM »

IQ? - nowhere near the 28-300L, BUT if the IQ is similar to the 70-300 IS USM, then this could be a lense that causes a bit of trouble in the market place.

Shame Tamron haven't released anything else recently that puts the cat amongst the pigeons  ;)

I would not be so sure about your first statement. The 28-300 L is now 10 years old. 150-600mm :)
Given the size & zoom range of this lens, there is  no way in hell  this Tammy can match 28-300 L optics ... if it is better than the 28-300 L, I will give you my Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC for free (excluding the cost of shipping out to you) and I mean it.

Deal :D

You just put yourself in a very dangerous situation, since "optical performance" can be intended in a number of very ambiguous ways - e.g. contrast, sharpness, CA, bokeh, fringing, etc etc :)
No problemo sir ... if this Tamron beats the Canon EF 28-300 L IS in any 3 (which must include sharpness) of the 5 parameters you've mentioned here i.e. Contrast, Sharpness, CA, bokeh, fringing, I promise to give you my Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC for free (provided you pay for the shipping costs).

Check this out:
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Canon-EF-28-300mm-F35-56L-IS-USM-on-Canon-EOS-1Ds-Mark-III-versus-28-300-3.5-6.3-XR-I-A-Canon___595_436_211_0

Click ->measurements ->Sharpness->Field map

According to DXO's measurements the old Tamron28-300 (which I have) is sharper throughout the focal range
than the Canon "L"...

Well, that settles it! ;)...anti  DxO rebuttals in 3...2...1....

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2014, 10:39:16 AM »
BUT if the IQ is similar to the 70-300 IS USM, then this could be a lense that causes a bit of trouble in the market place.
If you are referring to 70-300 IS, then I am pretty confident that this Tamron lens will be at least similar if not better.
But if you are talking about 70-300 L IS, then I don't think this Tammy be anywhere close ... I would like to end being wrong here but I'm pretty sure it cannot match the 70-300 L IS
Also, looking at the size vs zoom range, it seems like it is aimed at "tourists" who carry their full frame cameras, but would appreciate and be OK with an all-in-one lens that provides decent enough photos without expecting too much from it. I count myself in that category when I go on guided tours. I hope its not like the previous Tamron 28-300 VC lens, I owned it briefly and sold it off real quick due to its poor construction and clunky noise.

I was referring to the non-L.  I agree, a 3rd party non-special lens couldn't (probably) get near the L, but might just shade the IS USM non-L. 

I tend to shoot with L series zooms, but as a stroll-around this looks very attractive due to the zoom range, reach, the fact that it'll be a lot lighter than the 70-200 2.8 IS v2 I use and a lot less attractive to those wanting to nick your camera gear  ;)
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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2014, 10:43:42 AM »
This is great news, only I'm left wondering - it's already Feb and so far in this "year of the lens" we've got two Tamron superzooms and a Sigma 50 Art on the way. So, where's the Canon lenses we were told about??

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2014, 11:08:51 AM »
This is great news, only I'm left wondering - it's already Feb and so far in this "year of the lens" we've got two Tamron superzooms and a Sigma 50 Art on the way. So, where's the Canon lenses we were told about??

The Canon Jedi's will come out and say "These aren't the zooms you were looking for"

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 11:14:55 AM »
Given the size & zoom range of this lens, there is  no way in hell  this Tammy can match 28-300 L optics ... if it is better than the 28-300 L, I will give you my Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 VC for free (excluding the cost of shipping out to you) and I mean it.

Canon 28-300 weighs 1670 g while Tamron weighs 540 g.
That was the only reason why I did not buy a Canon 28-300 L IS ... instead I went with the Tamron version but did not like it at all and sold it as fast as I could.
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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 11:14:55 AM »

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2014, 01:15:01 PM »
If the IQ of this lens is close to Canon 28-300mm L and price is about 1000, I will get one as my travel lens.
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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2014, 01:25:34 PM »
More the size and weight of the EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM.  That might be a better comparison for IQ than the 28-300L.
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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2014, 01:38:10 PM »
This one should be compared to Nikon's 28-300 right? Canon's is much older....

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2014, 01:43:07 PM »
More the size and weight of the EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM.  That might be a better comparison for IQ than the 28-300L.

I personally would rather make a comparison with focal lengths as opposed to weight and size. That's just me.

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2014, 02:39:14 PM »
For me, it is not very wise 28-300mm on full frame. It would be much more useful if Tamron makes a 24-200mm F3.5-5.6 VC. Could be more appropriate weight and size, and would promote the image quality and autofocus.

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2014, 03:30:47 PM »
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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2014, 03:48:24 PM »
As a few others here have shared, I've also tried the current version of the Tamron 28-300 zoom and quickly got rid of it due to poor image quality. I convinced myself that a used one for a good price would make the IQ acceptable, no go.

Personally I like the idea of a light all-in-one travel (vacation) zoom. The 28-300L has impressive IQ for it's range, but the size and weight just makes it generally prohibitive for me to use it as a travel lens.

Having been burned once with this Tamron, I'll wait until the dust settles and real world reviews are in before I get to worked up.

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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2014, 04:40:10 PM »
I would love something like this so much!

I love the Canon 18-200 a lot! But I can't use it on my 5DMKII. The Canon 24-105 doesn't have enough range. The Canon 28-300 L is pricey and HUGE...

If this lens can do a little better in IQ and performance than the Canon 18-200, it's almost a no-brainier. If it's around $600, I'm in!
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Re: Tamron Announces Full Frame 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2014, 04:40:10 PM »