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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 06:07:58 PM »
I welcome that price, it might be much less copy variation, higher tolerance, actual precise AF and superb optical quality. It might even be both sharp and nice bokeh.

Put me down for one  :D

I'm just wondering how many pros who use an auto-focusing 50mm prime are still using the ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 (not-quite-modern-)USM as they just don't have a sharper / more reliable AF lens to shoot with.

Those folks will gladly pay $1300 for this lens (if that is the price).  I just don't know how many are out there.

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A lot... There are a few 50 L's out there and not even close to half of them are owned by pro's. And if people actually got a sharp 50 for the same money or less, I think it well sell by the boatload  :D
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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 06:07:58 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2014, 06:13:49 PM »
If it's true then they got too greedy too early.

On the other hand, I don't know the price difference between the Aussie and the U.S. markets. For example, the U.S. prices are about 30-35% lower than where I live. The 50L is about 2300 dollars where I live.
I agree. I expected it to be around $1000. That's $300 too much!
It better be a flawless lens.
Edit: removed comment about fringing, I was thinking about the 85!
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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2014, 06:44:47 PM »
During all this speculation, keep in mind that the MSRP of the 35 Art on Sigma's own website is $1400. As we all know, the actual price has always been $899. I would expect the new 50 to be similarly priced. Since I'm waiting for the 85 & the 135 Art, I really really hope so...

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2014, 06:51:53 PM »
During all this speculation, keep in mind that the MSRP of the 35 Art on Sigma's own website is $1400. As we all know, the actual price has always been $899. I would expect the new 50 to be similarly priced. Since I'm waiting for the 85 & the 135 Art, I really really hope so...
Yes, there are large discrepancies in prices between different countries. I also hope that costs up to $ 1,000 in the U.S. market.

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2014, 06:52:48 PM »
As this is a rumor only we may be getting well ahead of ourselves.

Sigma has a good record of late of delivering outstanding lenses in its Art line. As others have noted, if it is as good as we hope it should be able to command a high price.

The fact that Sigma is burdened with a history of budget pricers lenses is what is hurting it at the moment. They want to occupy the space that Zeiss now inhabits as they have seen that solid construction and superb optics are able to command a loyal base of eager buyers.

If the lens is good why don't we accord them the respect they have earned by paying a price that reflects the quality they have put into the product?

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Good points.  I would say they are much more clearly going after the red-ringed devils more than Zeiss.  This is an autofocus lens looking for autofocus users.  These Art series lenses (despite anyone making Otus comparisons) are aimed at besting their L-series counterparts for less money.  That's a great goal and I love the extra value these guys are now giving us.

That said, these new primes are big.  I believe the new 50's specs describe a lens very close in dia x length to my Canon 24-70 F/4L IS zoom.  So it's a pickle jar of a lens when I'm looking for standard primes to be more the size of a cocktail tumbler.  I've really enjoyed the non-L IS refreshes' smaller size and weight in comparison, but again, I want to see how this new Sigma performs.  It might be worth the size...

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2014, 06:55:22 PM »
I welcome that price, it might be much less copy variation, higher tolerance, actual precise AF and superb optical quality. It might even be both sharp and nice bokeh.

Put me down for one  :D

I'm just wondering how many pros who use an auto-focusing 50mm prime are still using the ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 (not-quite-modern-)USM as they just don't have a sharper / more reliable AF lens to shoot with.

Those folks will gladly pay $1300 for this lens (if that is the price).  I just don't know how many are out there.

- A

A lot... There are a few 50 L's out there and not even close to half of them are owned by pro's. And if people actually got a sharp 50 for the same money or less, I think it well sell by the boatload  :D

I realize there are a lot of 50L lovers on this very forum, and that the 50L is more for the draw, bokeh, color, etc. than pure corner to corner sharpness.

But there are a boatload of people who want sharp 50mm performance at something wider than F/4.  So, in fairness, I baited that response.  I know you folks are out there.   ;D

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 07:29:00 PM »
I welcome that price, it might be much less copy variation, higher tolerance, actual precise AF and superb optical quality. It might even be both sharp and nice bokeh.

Put me down for one  :D

I'm just wondering how many pros who use an auto-focusing 50mm prime are still using the ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 (not-quite-modern-)USM as they just don't have a sharper / more reliable AF lens to shoot with.

Those folks will gladly pay $1300 for this lens (if that is the price).  I just don't know how many are out there.

- A

A lot... There are a few 50 L's out there and not even close to half of them are owned by pro's. And if people actually got a sharp 50 for the same money or less, I think it well sell by the boatload  :D

I realize there are a lot of 50L lovers on this very forum, and that the 50L is more for the draw, bokeh, color, etc. than pure corner to corner sharpness.

But there are a boatload of people who want sharp 50mm performance at something wider than F/4.  So, in fairness, I baited that response.  I know you folks are out there.   ;D

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I want a 50 mm that is sharp in studio light and outdoor light for portraits, I find the 50L to be inconsistent. It always renders a nice colour and  has nice bokeh but that isn't enough. I'm finding my sigma 35 to wow me to the point I hate my 50L in terms of sharpness across the board. It gives me a way better punch to my photos. So if this 50 coming out has that same punch and focuses better then the 50L then sign me up. I'm starting to really like the colours my sigma 35 produces it gives it a vintage glow, maybe doesn't have the same bokeh as the 50L but bokeh is overrated.

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 07:29:00 PM »

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2014, 07:36:51 PM »

I realize there are a lot of 50L lovers on this very forum, and that the 50L is more for the draw, bokeh, color, etc. than pure corner to corner sharpness.

But there are a boatload of people who want sharp 50mm performance at something wider than F/4.  So, in fairness, I baited that response.  I know you folks are out there.   ;D

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I want a 50 mm that is sharp in studio light and outdoor light for portraits, I find the 50L to be inconsistent. It always renders a nice colour and  has nice bokeh but that isn't enough. I'm finding my sigma 35 to wow me to the point I hate my 50L in terms of sharpness across the board. It gives me a way better punch to my photos. So if this 50 coming out has that same punch and focuses better then the 50L then sign me up. I'm starting to really like the colours my sigma 35 produces it gives it a vintage glow, maybe doesn't have the same bokeh as the 50L but bokeh is overrated.
And bokeh is pretty damn subjective. 

In a voter-blinded 'study', the Sigma 35 F/1.4 beat the Canon and Nikon 35 F/1.4 lenses for best bokeh here:
http://www.digitalrev.com/article/battle-of-the-bokeh-canon/NzI2ODkwODA_A

Granted, Kai is many things -- but not a scientist.  The poll itself is nutty, but it's a data point nonetheless.

But I'm getting OT.  I just wonder if the new Sigma 50 will perform like that 35...

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2014, 07:42:37 PM »
Relax :). It may cost even less than 35Art, like $799.
35Art MSRP:$1,400.00 - Price:$899.00
50Art MSRP:$1,300.00 - Price:$799.00
...makes sense?
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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2014, 08:12:38 PM »
It's an estimated price. The actual price is still TBA. Let's not get our neckstraps in a twist over this rumor just yet!
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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2014, 08:26:16 PM »
Relax :). It may cost even less than 35Art, like $799.
35Art MSRP:$1,400.00 - Price:$899.00
50Art MSRP:$1,300.00 - Price:$799.00
...makes sense?
That makes sense, I hope you're right. :) If it's anything like the 35 art (perhaps my favorite lens) I'm sure I'll run to the store to buy it for $800 or whatever it will cost at the local store. Though I probably shouldn't.

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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2014, 08:26:57 PM »
It's an estimated price. The actual price is still TBA. Let's not get our neckstraps in a twist over this rumor just yet!
Ha ha, I've never heard that one before! (I really haven't) :)

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2014, 08:58:33 PM »
Hopefully Sigma is trying to catch Otus, but lack of AF is really downside for most of the pro's.
I'm still thinking the prize will be 800 - 900 US.

And once again there will be always folks like my self who think that price is not really meter, for me Image Quality and AF speed it's a much more important factors.
Time will tell.
 

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2014, 09:43:35 PM »
When they started comparing it to a 4000 lens in regards to performance... my presumed price point went from 900 to 1200.  1300 isn't that far off and I would still wait a little bit to save 20%... but I hope it does blow away Canon's offerings.
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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2014, 09:58:09 PM »
I welcome that price, it might be much less copy variation, higher tolerance, actual precise AF and superb optical quality. It might even be both sharp and nice bokeh.

Put me down for one  :D

I'm just wondering how many pros who use an auto-focusing 50mm prime are still using the ancient Canon 50 F/1.4 (not-quite-modern-)USM as they just don't have a sharper / more reliable AF lens to shoot with.

Those folks will gladly pay $1300 for this lens (if that is the price).  I just don't know how many are out there.

- A

A lot... There are a few 50 L's out there and not even close to half of them are owned by pro's. And if people actually got a sharp 50 for the same money or less, I think it well sell by the boatload  :D

Here's my thought process... I have the cash to buy the lens and if the lens is 90 % of the otus, but 125% of the 50L.

Sign me up.  Auto focus is a bonus... I even if it is as slow as the 85L mkii...if the af is fast and quality control good... I might even pay full retail price. 
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Price leaked
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