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Re: Panasonic Lumix GH4 ...
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2014, 05:19:19 PM »
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It's obvious we do not agree. It's obvious you have some vested interested in maintaining the status quo. It should also be obvious that I am tired of Canon, just as I am of the opinion that most of their products are tired or fundamentally wrong. So, we'll never see eye to eye on anything. Leave it there.

You ran out of arguments so now I have “some vested interested in maintaining the status quo”?

I’m just stating facts. Canon is market leader, has been market leader for a long time and their market share has been about the same for the last decade or so. 
You’re not happy with what Canon has to offer at this moment in time. That’s fine. We all have different wants, needs and budgets. If Canon doesn’t offer what you want/need, jump ship to a manufacturer that that does. Just don’t project your personal opinion on other Canon customers because the facts up till now show no significant shifts in market shares between brands.

The only logical conclusion is Canon does enough to keep their customers, both professional and non-professional.  They could do better from the customers point of view. Most of us would like more and better features for less money. Canon has the technology, but it would cut into their profit margins, so as long as their customers don’t run away in large amounts they have no need to do so.

I would be happy if other brands gain market share at the expense of Canon because it would force Canon to give us more for less. If only all those unhappy customers would start buying other brands instead of complaining about Canon on internet fora.

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Re: Panasonic Lumix GH4 ...
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2014, 05:19:19 PM »

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Re: Panasonic Lumix GH4 ...
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2014, 02:00:59 AM »
Just got an email from B&H with the price for Panasonic GH4 - US$ 1699 - that's US$ 1869 with shipping and customs (for me) for body only ... and if you also want the interface unit with 2-Channel XLR Inputs, than the price is US$3299 (i.e. US$ 3603 with shipping & customs)  :o :o :o
Last week when I had severe GAS (before I knew about its price tag), I was thinking about pre-ordering the GH4 ... but now, no way ... freaking quarter size sensor (of my Sony a7 or the 6D), costs the same as a full frame camera :o :o :o ... the Sony a6000 which will be released around the same time (with some awesome features and a much bigger sensor), is costing only US$648.
But this is a worrying sign, coz if a micro four thirds camera like the GH4 is going to cost this much, what will Canon/Nikon charge for 7D MK II/D400 :-\
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2014, 04:57:02 AM »
Now that I think about it, there is a feature missing from the panasonic. A... full frame sensor...  ;D

Yup, that's one big factor keeping me away from Fuji (or any compact system really), a good telephoto lens is the other. (Since telephoto applications work well with crop sensors all I need is a high quality 400mm lens to go with the XT-1 and I'm sold on that setup.)
Bottom line, I know they're going to have to upgrade to full frame to stay competitive eventually, and when they do it's not going to be compatible with their current lenses, so the whole system is just a bad long term investment.
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2014, 11:07:30 AM »
Just got an email from B&H with the price for Panasonic GH4 - US$ 1699 - that's US$ 1869 with shipping and customs (for me) for body only ... and if you also want the interface unit with 2-Channel XLR Inputs, than the price is US$3299 (i.e. US$ 3603 with shipping & customs)  :o :o :o
Last week when I had severe GAS (before I knew about its price tag), I was thinking about pre-ordering the GH4 ... but now, no way ... freaking quarter size sensor (of my Sony a7 or the 6D), costs the same as a full frame camera :o :o :o ... the Sony a6000 which will be released around the same time (with some awesome features and a much bigger sensor), is costing only US$648.
But this is a worrying sign, coz if a micro four thirds camera like the GH4 is going to cost this much, what will Canon/Nikon charge for 7D MK II/D400 :-\

Had the same feeling when I opened up that email this morning. I would've actually considered it just out of value and curiosity had it been lower.

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Re: Panasonic Lumix GH4 ...
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2014, 11:58:26 AM »
Just got an email from B&H with the price for Panasonic GH4 - US$ 1699 - that's US$ 1869 with shipping and customs (for me) for body only ... and if you also want the interface unit with 2-Channel XLR Inputs, than the price is US$3299 (i.e. US$ 3603 with shipping & customs)  :o :o :o
Last week when I had severe GAS (before I knew about its price tag), I was thinking about pre-ordering the GH4 ... but now, no way ... freaking quarter size sensor (of my Sony a7 or the 6D), costs the same as a full frame camera :o :o :o ... the Sony a6000 which will be released around the same time (with some awesome features and a much bigger sensor), is costing only US$648.
But this is a worrying sign, coz if a micro four thirds camera like the GH4 is going to cost this much, what will Canon/Nikon charge for 7D MK II/D400 :-\

Had the same feeling when I opened up that email this morning. I would've actually considered it just out of value and curiosity had it been lower.
+1 ... if it was about or under $1000, I would have bought it, coz I recently came across a small camera store in our local mall, there are lots of used lenses for the micro four thirds cameras, for really cheap prices ... so I was thinking about messing around with a few of those lenses, especially since the GH4 has inbuilt image stabilization and some very good features ... but despite its very good features, I don't think it is worth $1869.
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Re: Panasonic Lumix GH4 ...
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2014, 12:04:45 PM »
Good point re the m43 lens prices. I was actually considering it since speed boosters have been surfacing for EF to m43 on eBay.

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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2014, 12:04:45 PM »