lets have a look at a video from guys who actually shot video.
enough boring talk from guys in this tread who know not much about video but talk like they have invented photography and videography.
just for a change...
As far as my own perspective goes, I am not arguing with you about the utility of 4k nor am I arguing with you about the fact that it will absolutely be the standard at some point.
My main issue is with people who think that it is something Canon SHOULD or will be doing very soon based on the fact that the GH4 is out. It is NOT the standard for the market as a whole currently.
Furthermore, the GH4 is in a price range that would require Canon put 4k in their consumer lines in order to compete directly (right now). THAT, is not something I believe will happen (right now) and is truly the only point I have been trying to convey.
If we are not talking about Canon being forced to compete directly, then the issue is moot as they already offer 4k in their lineup.
+1. Totally agree. This has been the argument all along, that the notion Canon would "have" to respond to the GH4 is wrong. Canon will make 4k a standard feature when 4k is a standard feature in general.
Well Panasonic has effectively introduced 4k as the standard HD video on their digital cameras.
Given that, I'd expect Olympus to follow suit. Not sure about Sony or Nikon. But within the year, I expect 4k to be a tick-box feature that is standard across new digital cameras above $1000. Well all except Canon of course because nobody with a Canon DSLR wants 4k video. *shrug*
Your missing the point. When I say "a standard feature in general", I really mean "IN GENERAL". As in, the general public will be fully aware of 4k, will understand, at least to a basic level, what 4k is, have 4k TVs, and will generally want to shoot their home videos of their doggies and babies in 4k.
Ok, so you're using a different definition of "in general" than I am. I don't see the "IN GENERAL" as needing to refer to general availability to the general public in all related products.
FWIW, BluRay players and AV receivers are already offering 4K processing and up-scaling (this was news at CES in January 2013
.) My BluRay player can upscale content to 4K, my AV receiver can process or upscale content for 4K. The only part of the equation that is missing is the TV screen or projector. The PS4 is 4k capable. 4k is already a tick-box item when comparing various products when shopping for AV goodies.
I don't think that Canon will have a choice to wait for general adoption of 4k. Those in video circles will go "Well, I can buy a $3000 Black Magic camera or a $10,000 Canon camera. Hard choice." The obstacle for many people with the Nikon D800 and D610 is a change of lenses is required.
If I want to shoot 4k video, I can spend $3000 on Black Magic and use my EF lenses or spend $10,000 on Canon and use my EF lenses. Heck, the Black Magic MSRP is now also cheaper than the Canon 5D Mark III MSRP. So even if you I want to shoot 1080p now and move to 4k in the future, I'd have to be crazy to buy a 35mm FF Canon DSLR. Same for anyone else going into digital video production.
Just because Panasonic has made 4k "standard" on THEIR products does not mean that 4k is a general consumer technology.
Maybe not now, but I'm tipping that it will become so quicker than I think you want to publicly admit.
It isn't. It won't be for a while. When it is, then Canon will be there with 4k video in all their latest DSLRs and mirrorless cameras. That probably won't be for another four to five years yet, though.
How do you know all this?
You say this with such certainty that it sounds like you're privy to inside information of Canon.
Or are you just making educated guesses like the rest of us?
If you are just making educated guesses (using your logic) then you might want to say that these are your opinions rather than a statement of fact.