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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2014, 11:46:49 AM »
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks.  It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.

f2-f3.9 is called slow today.... mhm. good to know.

too bad my sony RX100 is f1.8-4.9.... where do i get a P&S with f1.2-2.
i don´t want to be seen with a slow point and shoot.   :-[

G15. F1.8-F2.8.  ::)

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications
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« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2014, 11:50:21 AM »
for me, the eos-m destroys this camera. especially for the price. I don't see how this can be priced at the 750ish price point when the M is 300 bucks with the 22mm f2 lens. maybe that's just me.
it seems to me like if you really want an all in one, non ILC then the Sony RX100 II is way better than this... if someone disagrees please explain why.

smaller sensor....

i have the RX100 and im happy with it but i find this one tempting.
from a first look.

thought price will play an important role.
if it really costs ~700$ i will wait until the price drops.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 11:58:32 AM by Lichtgestalt »

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« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2014, 11:53:30 AM »
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks.  It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.

f2-f3.9 is called slow today.... mhm. good to know.

too bad my sony RX100 is f1.8-4.9.... where do i get a P&S with f1.2-2.
i don´t want to be seen with a slow point and shoot.   :-[

G15. F1.8-F2.8.  ::)

to small a sensor.

i can hear them laugh already....  :-[

ps: and it´s not good looking either.

« Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 11:55:40 AM by Lichtgestalt »

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2014, 11:57:28 AM »
This camera is horrendous looking but what is the sync speed?

I'm always amazed that people care about how a camera looks.  It doesn't take pictures of itself.

If you like ugly looking expensive niche market P&S slow lensed cameras, be my guest. Just don't expect everyone will agree with you.

f2-f3.9 is called slow today.... mhm. good to know.

too bad my sony RX100 is f1.8-4.9.... where do i get a P&S with f1.2-2.
i don´t want to be seen with a slow point and shoot.   :-[

G15. F1.8-F2.8.  ::)

to small a sensor.

i can hear them laugh already....  :-[

ps: and it´s not good looking either.

Oh, I can hear the laughter of your overpriced P&S that isn't half as capable as an old G12. Like strobist stuff, a larger zoom range, and you know that very useful sync speed. ;D
« Last Edit: February 11, 2014, 12:02:12 PM by RLPhoto »

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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2014, 11:58:24 AM »
I do not see a bright future for mirrorless interchangeable-lens.
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2014, 12:00:56 PM »
Let's just hope the minimum focus distance has been improved. The old camera has such a far focus distance that it is often difficult to shoot someone sitting across you at a table. That was the main gripe of the first version.

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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2014, 12:01:07 PM »
I have the G1 X and one of the things that it is not very good at, is close focusing distance ... I wonder if they've addressed that issue with the G1 X II
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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2014, 12:03:43 PM »
Oh, I can hear the laughter of your overpriced P&S that isn't half as capable as an old G12. Like flash.  ;D

you mean sync speed?

to be honest i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers who will buy this camera.

i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.

by the way:

size is 116.4x74x66.2mm

and you can shoot selfies and look at the display (if you have too) the swivel display allows it.

http://www.canonwatch.com/canon-powershot-g1-x-ii-product-brochure-leaked-japanese/





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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2014, 12:10:07 PM »
Oh, I can hear the laughter of your overpriced P&S that isn't half as capable as an old G12. Like flash.  ;D

you mean sync speed?

to be honest i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers.

i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.

I'm not the only one. David hobby used an old g-series cam for the same reasons. It's a power users camera which the Rx100 is NOT. It's not even comparable to G-series cameras in flexibility. Also, this forum doesn't really cater to the 90% of customers.  ::) ::) ::)

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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2014, 12:14:57 PM »
Oh, I can hear the laughter of your overpriced P&S that isn't half as capable as an old G12. Like flash.  ;D

you mean sync speed?

to be honest i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers. 

i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.

I'm not the only one. David hobby used an old g-series cam for the same reasons. It's a power users camera which the Rx100 is NOT. It's not even comparable to G-series cameras in flexibility.

nobody said your the only one... but you and david are how many percent of the possible buyers? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

im a strobist myself but i never used my P&S for that.
strobist setups normaly need time and gear to setup, i don´t do it out of the blue.
oh nice motive..... let´s setup my 3 strobes + umbrellas and stands i carry all day to shoot it with my P&S.
never happend to me. ;)

so when i shoot that stuff i use my DSLR.


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Also, this forum doesn't really cater to the 90% of customers.  ::) ::) ::)

exactly.. way to many geeks here.

the majority doesn´t even know what x-sync is.
and so i doubt it´s a big point on their feature list.
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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2014, 12:15:13 PM »
Let's just hope the minimum focus distance has been improved. The old camera has such a far focus distance that it is often difficult to shoot someone sitting across you at a table. That was the main gripe of the first version.
If rumours are true, the close focus will be 5cm

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« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2014, 12:17:28 PM »
Let's just hope the minimum focus distance has been improved. The old camera has such a far focus distance that it is often difficult to shoot someone sitting across you at a table. That was the main gripe of the first version.
If rumours are true, the close focus will be 5cm

look at the link i have posted above.

http://www.canonwatch.com/canon-powershot-g1-x-ii-product-brochure-leaked-japanese/



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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2014, 12:34:44 PM »
for me, the eos-m destroys this camera. especially for the price. I don't see how this can be priced at the 750ish price point when the M is 300 bucks with the 22mm f2 lens. maybe that's just me.
it seems to me like if you really want an all in one, non ILC then the Sony RX100 II is way better than this... if someone disagrees please explain why.
i would prefer G1X MII over the RX100 MII for the following reasons :
- more usefull focal range (24-120 vs 28-100)
- more "constant" aperture 3.9@120mm vs 4.9@100mm
- much better handling with bulkier body and 2 grip size to choose from (i have big hands ;) )
- canon menus and ergonomics with 2 dials allow intuitive manual modes and easy setup
- lower resolution but better sensor especially on high isos  (see g1x vs rx100 comparisons)
- it should have a shallower DoF if you want it
- touch screen to be able to choose quickly your focus area
- better exposure range (1/4000 - 60s vs 1/2000 - 30s)
- 3 stop ND built-in (if it's like MK1)
....

1" sensor, 20mp and small size aren't everything. But I Agree that RX series should have been a apin in the a** for Canon.
Welle they need that to move forward. Thanks Sony!!  ;D
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« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2014, 12:39:17 PM »
i could not care less on a P&S and i guess that applies to 90% of the customers who will buy this camera.
i don´t have an external flash with me all the time.
and when i know that i will shoot flash i sure don´t grab one of my P&S.
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Re: Canon PowerShot G1 X II Final Specifications
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2014, 12:44:47 PM »
for me, the eos-m destroys this camera. especially for the price. I don't see how this can be priced at the 750ish price point when the M is 300 bucks with the 22mm f2 lens. maybe that's just me.
it seems to me like if you really want an all in one, non ILC then the Sony RX100 II is way better than this... if someone disagrees please explain why.
i would prefer G1X MII over the RX100 MII for the following reasons :
- more usefull focal range (24-120 vs 28-100)
- more "constant" aperture 3.9@120mm vs 4.9@100mm
- much better handling with bulkier body and 2 grip size to choose from (i have big hands ;) )
- canon menus and ergonomics with 2 dials allow intuitive manual modes and easy setup
- lower resolution but better sensor especially on high isos  (see g1x vs rx100 comparisons)
- it should have a shallower DoF if you want it
- touch screen to be able to choose quickly your focus area
- better exposure range (1/4000 - 60s vs 1/2000 - 30s)

yep, and in RLPhotos case you can use the canon flash and the nice triggers you already have.  ;)




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