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« on: February 12, 2014, 10:09:03 AM »
Hi there - Ive recently come into some money & will be upgrading my Canon gear.  I currently have the Canon 50D with 18-200mm lens. Im looking at getting the following & would appreciate any advice :

5Dlll kit set - with the EF 24-70mm f/2.8 ll USM lens.
Lens : Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 IS ll USM.
Lens : Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM
Lens : Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM or the EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM.  I know I'll be losing the extra reach without the crop sensor, so maybe the 100-400mm would be better.

I do a lot of travel photography, architecture, landscapes, people shots, wildlife. Any recommendations would be appreciated. 

After reading below comments : Im very lucky that I am able to get this gear at a great price so want to get it while I can.

Agree it will be heavy gear so I need to be smart about it.  So I think the 24-70mm f/2.8L + 70-200mm f/2.8L IS.  Also if I go down the Converter route - a 1.4X III or 2XIII ??

The Tilt shifts might be a little out of my range, but Im also considering some primes as well - still learning with these, so would love some advice on what range would be the best : 35mm f/2, 50mmf/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 11:12:34 AM »
5DIII + 24-70/2.8L II is an excelent combination for general use.

70-200/2.8L IS II is just about the best zoom lens available (the uber-expensive 200-400+1.4x notwithstanding).  Great indoors and out for portraits, but not small or light.

17-40L is a good ultrawide lens for landscapes, as long as you plan to shoot mostly at f/8 - f/11, it's fine.  The 16-35L II is double the cost, gives you an extra stop of light (useful for low light) and better IQ at f/2.8-f/5.6 (better, but still not stellar).

70-300L is better as a travel lens due to its smaller size, 100-400L is better if you'll use it mostly at 400mm (I have both; before getting the 600 II, I used the 100-400 a lot more, but now that I have the 600 II for reach, I use the 70-300L a lot more than the 100-400).

For architecture/landscapes, I'd consider getting a TS-E 24L II or TS-E 17 over the 17-40L, budget permitting. 

The combination of the 70-200 II + 2xIII is optically similar to the 100-400L at 400mm, but the 100-400 is easier to use and focuses better.  If you'll only use the 200-400mm range occasionally, the TC may be the better way to go.
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 11:54:18 AM »
This will be day and night diff. in term of upgrading. Be prepare to fall in love with FF.

As Neuro already mentioned, the 24-70 II + 70-200 f2.8 IS II, these are the BEST zoom lenses you can get - PERIOD.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 12:05:58 PM »
Maybe consider the 24-70mm f/4 over the f/2.8, seeing as you do travel photography.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 02:54:21 PM »
How much crap do you want to carry around with you?

How much experience with primes/fixed focal length lenses do you have?
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 04:44:56 PM »
Weight will be a consideration if your doing a load of travelling, especially by air, keep the package as light as possible.

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24-70 f/2.8 L II
70-200 f/2.8 L II
TSE 24 f/3.5 f/3.5 L II
600 EX-RT Flash
1.4X III Converter (gives your 70-200f/2.8 280 f/4) at the long end & little to no loss of IQ)

All this into a Guru Gear Bataflea 26L Camera Bag, your about as well rigged as you will want to be, for a while.

The 24 TSE will not only do your architecture better then anything else, it's an amazingly sharp Lens & just about perfect for Landscape.

I have the 70-300f/4-f/5.6, not so impressed, OK IQ & light to Carry, but you can't use the Canon Converters with it, noir a bad lens, I'm just not convinced it's in the same league as the other lenses mentioned above.

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2014, 05:04:43 PM »
I have both the 24-70 and  70 - 200 but I use the 24-70 most of the time. I have the 17-40 but I have not used it much since I bought the 24-70. Enjoy

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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2014, 06:24:18 PM »
70-200 and (70-300 or 100-400) seems like duplication (no so much the 100-400).  If you want reach for wildlife/birds consider the 400 f/5.6.  You don't get IS but it is light, not too expensive, and really good IQ.  Rumor has it that a new IS version is coming.   ::)

Also, you mention
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5Dlll kit set - with the EF 24-70mm f/2.8 ll USM lens.
I think the standard Canon kit lens is the 24-70 f/4.  Could be a bundle the seller put together.
Might want to dbl check that.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2014, 07:17:31 PM »
I have the 24-70 and 70-200 you are considering and if you can afford them then absolutely get them. I agree with Neuro that the 2x III TC is the best way to go instead of the 100-400 as their are daily rumours  that it will be replaced soon. I have the 16-35 and have and continue to enjoy it and bought it in preference to the 17-40 for the reasons others have explained. Knowing your wide range of interests a TSE may help better than the 16-35 or 17-40. I recently travelled to China with the whole kit and I can tell you it is heavy and whilst if I left anything back I may worry that I hadn't the right lens at the right time, I will on my next trip. 
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2014, 07:56:51 PM »
Or you can just get a 1dx and one lens and call it a day.
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2014, 08:17:30 PM »
Hi there - Ive recently come into some money & will be upgrading my Canon gear.  I currently have the Canon 50D with 18-200mm lens. Im looking at getting the following & would appreciate any advice :

5Dlll kit set - with the EF 24-70mm f/2.8 ll USM lens.
Lens : Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 IS ll USM.
Lens : Canon EF 17-40mm f/4L USM $616
Lens : Canon EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM or the EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM.  I know I'll be losing the extra reach without the crop sensor, so maybe the 100-400mm would be better.

I do a lot of travel photography, architecture, landscapes, people shots, wildlife. Any recommendations would be appreciated.  Cheers

For travel... I'd lean towards the 6D, a 70-200 f/4L IS.  I'm a strong guy... and holding onto the 5d mkiii and the 70-200 mkii all day and I feel it in my wrists and forearms. 

Also, it doesn't sound like you are doing a ton of action shots so I'm not sure the shots per second and the advanced AF is really worth it. 

For portrait, I'd consider a 135L or a 85L... but I realize going from a super zoom and having to switch lenses can be annoying.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100L->85mm f/1.8 USM-> 8mm ->100L & 85L

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2014, 08:19:35 PM »
I have the 24-70 and 70-200 you are considering and if you can afford them then absolutely get them. I agree with Neuro that the 2x III TC is the best way to go instead of the 100-400 as their are daily rumours  that it will be replaced soon. I have the 16-35 and have and continue to enjoy it and bought it in preference to the 17-40 for the reasons others have explained. Knowing your wide range of interests a TSE may help better than the 16-35 or 17-40. I recently travelled to China with the whole kit and I can tell you it is heavy and whilst if I left anything back I may worry that I hadn't the right lens at the right time, I will on my next trip.

I was thinking tilt shift too... but never having used one... I really have no freaking clue on whether someone would find it beneficial.  I just know architecture people swear by them.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100L->85mm f/1.8 USM-> 8mm ->100L & 85L

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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2014, 08:22:36 PM »
How much crap do you want to carry around with you?

How much experience with primes/fixed focal length lenses do you have?

Agreed... but someone will definitely need to get an insurance policy on all this gear.  Especially before you go abroad.  You don't want a travel opportunity ending up with a robbery... in the hotel or out on the town.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100L->85mm f/1.8 USM-> 8mm ->100L & 85L

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2014, 09:40:47 PM »
Thanks everyone for your comments - Im very lucky that I am able to get this gear at a great price so want to get it while I can.

Agree it will be heavy gear so I need to be smart about it.  So I think the 24-70mm f/2.8L + 70-200mm f/2.8L IS.  Also if I go down the Converter route - a 1.4X III or 2XIII ??

The Tilt shifts might be a little out of my range, but Im also considering some primes as well - still learning with these, so would love some advice on what range would be the best : 35mm f/2, 50mmf/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.


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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2014, 10:12:40 PM »
Thanks everyone for your comments - Im very lucky that I am able to get this gear at a great price so want to get it while I can.

Agree it will be heavy gear so I need to be smart about it.  So I think the 24-70mm f/2.8L + 70-200mm f/2.8L IS.  Also if I go down the Converter route - a 1.4X III or 2XIII ??

The Tilt shifts might be a little out of my range, but Im also considering some primes as well - still learning with these, so would love some advice on what range would be the best : 35mm f/2, 50mmf/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, 100mm f/2.

The sigma 35 f/1.4 is really sharp and impressive, but the 35L still beats it in terms of pretty bokeh... No clue about the 35 f/2.

I don't like the canon 50's.  The 50L is supposed to have a magic bokeh (though I've never tried it).  All of the 50's aren't sharp until you get to f/2.8 or so... which I think is a problem.

I had the 85 f/1.8 and I really liked it... but there is some purple fringing in high contrast areas... and some people don't like it, but I really liked the len, even wide open.  I didn't like the 3ft minimum focusing distance.

Not sure about the 100 f/2... but I hear good things about it.  I have a 100L and I REALLY like it.  it is incredible for portrait, macro, sports, etc.  It is just very versatile.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100L->85mm f/1.8 USM-> 8mm ->100L & 85L

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