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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2014, 03:21:27 PM »
Sounds like a nifty little lens. I only wish it was EF and not EF-S, but I guess that's being selfish.
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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2014, 03:21:27 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2014, 03:22:17 PM »
We’re also told that a new USM motor will also be introduced some time this year, and it will be called “C-USM”, which stands for Compact Ultrasonic Motor. This technology is likely to first appear in a new 50mm lens.

No no no no no!!!  It is a compact USM motor that made the last 50mm f1.4 a piece of unreliable garbage.  Why would you do this again when you already have a reliable usm motor that is small enough to fit in the new 24, 28, 35 mm IS lenses?
sigh!  :(
exactly my thought.

and my second thought was:
"C" stands not for "compact" but for "cheap" or "cheesy".  >:(
Maybe I'll be disabused and the thing will be better and faster than I believe now.   :-\
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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2014, 03:31:52 PM »
... Nikon 35mm F1.8 DX lens ... When I complain of the lack of APS-C primes (here in CR) tell me that I can buy Sigma 30mm F1.4, or Canon 28mm F2.8 IS. :-[ Seriously, Sigma costing $500 without image stabilizer, and Canon  costing $550 for only F2.8? :-X APS-C allows a lens 24mm (or 22mm) F2 very compact and below $300. Come on, Canon! I'm waiting.

And I'm seriously eyeballing a Fujifilm X-T1 with Fujinon XF 27mm F2.8 ... although in your case the Fujinon XF 23mm F1.4 R looks the ticket.

(I'm sorry, but on the other hand, I've been yapping for years that Canon needs to give us EF-S primes. Now when they finally appear to wake up, taking into account this is a CR1, they're behind the wave and playing catch-up to others.)
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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2014, 03:32:19 PM »
"This technology is likely to first appear in a new 50mm lens."

A long last a 50mm 1.4 that has decent AF and AF that doesn't break if you look at it the wrong way?  :)

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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2014, 03:34:47 PM »
... and AF that doesn't break if you look at it the wrong way?  :)
LOL
if it'll be like that, then I might even consider to buy this "Cheap" or "Cheesy" USM.  ;)
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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2014, 04:19:55 PM »
What's keeping Canon from producing a hybrid STM-USM?

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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2014, 05:25:28 PM »
What's keeping Canon from producing a hybrid STM-USM?

No idea, but as a still shooter, STM is kind of the devil to me.  If they ever offered such a lens, I trust it would have a switch to move between STM and USM.

That focus switch would be called "Still" or "Movie".   :P

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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2014, 05:25:28 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2014, 05:38:58 PM »
What's keeping Canon from producing a hybrid STM-USM?

No idea, but as a still shooter, STM is kind of the devil to me.  If they ever offered such a lens, I trust it would have a switch to move between STM and USM.

That focus switch would be called "Still" or "Movie".   :P

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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2014, 05:39:16 PM »
I see little value in that.  A person bringing both the 24 and 40 and possibly something else might be better served by the 17-55.  Either that or pick up the M with the 22 f/2, which is still less inconspicuous than an APS-C body.

This is why: http://camerasize.com/compact/#448.303,448.345,ha,t

For me, I do adventure sports, which either involves long treks, or being put into a small case in the back of my boat. That weight makes a very big difference over miles, and it effects how the camera handles.  The EOS M can't AF, which makes it of limited use for multi-frame bursts. It's the same issue with basically all the mirrorless cameras; I need portability AND the ability to shoot action.

Moreover, if the new lens ends up being about the size of the 22 STM, I can own it and the 40mm pancake and still have $400+ and 1lb of weight saved. If it ends up being f/2 instead of f/2.8, then its even better off than the 17-55 (IS is of no use to me in action shooting)


That's a great size comparison except if you need to bring other lenses for other focal lengths anyway...

I hope you're right about the new lens being the same size as aperture as the 22 f/2, but I'm guessing it'll closer to 28 f/2.8 in size rather than the 22 f/2.

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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2014, 05:45:22 PM »
Sometimes I get jealous of my friends who shoot with Nikon. :( One of them bought Nikon 35mm F1.8 DX lens, and that's great. ::) When I see the flash SB700 (medium model) also serving as master wireless, am ashamed of the 430 EXII not do the same. >:( When I complain of the lack of APS-C primes (here in CR) tell me that I can buy Sigma 30mm F1.4, or Canon 28mm F2.8 IS. :-[ Seriously, Sigma costing $500 without image stabilizer, and Canon  costing $550 for only F2.8? :-X APS-C allows a lens 24mm (or 22mm) F2 very compact and below $300. Come on, Canon! I'm waiting.

Picked up my 28 f/2.8 IS for 350 during the last holiday season's sales from one of the NYC superstores.  It's a nice lens, but not very popular.

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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2014, 05:55:46 PM »
Sometimes I get jealous of my friends who shoot with Nikon. :( One of them bought Nikon 35mm F1.8 DX lens, and that's great. ::) When I see the flash SB700 (medium model) also serving as master wireless, am ashamed of the 430 EXII not do the same. >:( When I complain of the lack of APS-C primes (here in CR) tell me that I can buy Sigma 30mm F1.4, or Canon 28mm F2.8 IS. :-[ Seriously, Sigma costing $500 without image stabilizer, and Canon  costing $550 for only F2.8? :-X APS-C allows a lens 24mm (or 22mm) F2 very compact and below $300. Come on, Canon! I'm waiting.
Picked up my 28 f/2.8 IS for 350 during the last holiday season's sales from one of the NYC superstores.  It's a nice lens, but not very popular.
Wow, you paid a good price for 28mm IS. It is a shame that other countries outside the USA there is no discount on prices of lenses. However, I actually prefer the focal length 24mm APS-C. Actually, I'm very envious of EF-M 22mm F2.
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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2014, 01:35:06 PM »
I have wanted a lens like this since I first started shooting. I'm on FF now, but I actually recommend Nikon occasionally to hobbyist photographers because their 35/1.8 is a good cheap addition to the kit (generally the only lens they own besides the kit 18-55 and potentially a slow 70-300). If Canon puts out an inexpensive and good quality 22-24mm prime, I will never have to recommend Nikon again in the foreseeable future.

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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2014, 03:52:11 PM »
Picked up my 28 f/2.8 IS for 350 during the last holiday season's sales from one of the NYC superstores.  It's a nice lens, but not very popular.
Wow, you paid a good price for 28mm IS. It is a shame that other countries outside the USA there is no discount on prices of lenses. However, I actually prefer the focal length 24mm APS-C. Actually, I'm very envious of EF-M 22mm F2.

The 24 is more useful than the 28, but the 28 was on sale and the 24 was not.  I think the 24 and 28 f/2.8 IS are more suited to FF because there are so many zooms that have IS for APS-C in the range.  IS can be useful, but I don't use it much because most of my pics have people in them and I typically need a faster shutter speed anyway.

Agreed, the EF-M 22 f/2 is a gem.  The smaller and noisier the sensors, the more "necessary" faster lenses are...

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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2014, 03:52:11 PM »

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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2014, 12:37:19 AM »
I actually have been patiently looking for a cheap pancake FF 20mm(but 24mm might just do), that is my favorite angel of view on APS-C, but the current 17-40 will serve very well for the moment.

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Re: New EF-S 24mm & USM Motor Coming? [CR1]
« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2014, 09:38:25 PM »
If it was EF, i would be extremely excited, as it is EF-s i am only moderately...  a small 24mm pancake/scone on my wifes 100D would be excellent! :) Lets see what turns up!
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« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2014, 09:38:25 PM »