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Canon 5D X
« on: October 22, 2011, 07:00:08 AM »
I'm confident it'll carry this name but when will it come?

The main reason the new 1D has only 18mp is because of the speed of shooting. Will they opt to keep the sensor for lower production costs or go higher mp.

Maybe we'll see a full frame 7Dx with fast fps and a high mp 5d x

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Re: Canon 5D X
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2011, 10:15:13 AM »
Things I wouldn't care about if a 5DX came out;

1. More FPS, I'm not a sports photographer.
2. Less megapixels. That would kill it for sure.
3. ISO 250000+, I rarely take pictures in pitch darkness.
4. A $1K GPS or WiFi attachment. Why aren't these built in already? Even low end cell phones have these now.
5. USB 2.0 only. USB 3.0 is already on my laptop and PC motherboard.
6. SD card only. Well maybe if it can be configured in a RAID-0 arrrangment.

Canon, please move forward!

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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2011, 11:01:58 AM »
I'm equally confident it will be called 5D Mk III and that it will be the big megapixel FF body in Canon's lineup, aimed at users for whom the 1DS MkIII was the natural choice.

I've no idea why anyone would think the 7D MkII will be anything other than APS-C. Another high speed FF body would eat into 1DX sales: why would Canon do that? As for APS-H, it's dead. If Canon wanted to keep APS-H alive, they would have kept the 1D and 1DS series separate. Why would Canon pass APS-H down the line to a cheaper body when they could have produced a 1D MkV? APS-H is dead, never to return.

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Re: Canon 5D X
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2011, 11:26:19 AM »
I'm equally confident it will be called 5D Mk III and that it will be the big megapixel FF body in Canon's lineup, aimed at users for whom the 1DS MkIII was the natural choice.

I've no idea why anyone would think the 7D MkII will be anything other than APS-C. Another high speed FF body would eat into 1DX sales: why would Canon do that? As for APS-H, it's dead. If Canon wanted to keep APS-H alive, they would have kept the 1D and 1DS series separate. Why would Canon pass APS-H down the line to a cheaper body when they could have produced a 1D MkV? APS-H is dead, never to return.

Completely agree. The APS-H format has been an orphan for years. It was clearly a transitional format, squeezed out as the image quality between APS-C and Full Frame has narrowed.
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Re: Canon 5D X
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2011, 01:18:45 PM »
Canon went as far as III in their lineup with the 1d series. Therefore I think they will go with the 5D III name.

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2011, 02:47:17 PM »
why would they change the name at this stage?

The 5D range has become synonymous with ground breaking camera specs, a marketing person would tell you it would be madness to change the naming policy of a brand. The X for the 1 series solved loads of issues, it's not an "s" variant and it's not a plain mk"*" variant.

I believe the 5D series will become Canon's new megapixel beast instead of the 1Ds range. Why not? It not only killed the 1Ds3, but brought Canon bucket loads of dosh and reputation that money really couldn't buy.

Keeping it to a 5D3 will keep the brand name intact, and delivering around 30mp with a working 25k working ISO, improved AF (say 9 full cross hairs) - and probably dual CF slots to over come the video regs in Europe for around the £2200 would bring along another huge raft of upgrade and fresh sales.

If you make it a 5Dx, people will ask what have they done to the 5D range. If you make it 5D3, they know what they're getting - and people will be saying "go on then - what have they done now?" in a manner that will leave you wondering how other brands are ever gonna match it!

That's my 5D3's worth  ;)

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Re: Canon 5D X
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2011, 03:57:41 PM »
Keeping it to a 5D3 will keep the brand name intact, and delivering around 30mp with a working 25k working ISO, improved AF (say 9 full cross hairs) - and probably dual CF slots to over come the video regs in Europe for around the £2200 would bring along another huge raft of upgrade and fresh sales.

@picsfor: good price tag. About 3100 swiss francs then... What do you mean with "working 25k working ISO"?
What is the so called native ISO by then? 6400 or 12.800? Sorry, I haven't got a 5D so I cannot relate to own experience, saving up for a 5Diii even though I am aimed at super fine high ISO photography...the 1Dx is just quite beyond my money wallet size...but I do hope it will deliever some usable 51k for very low light b/w Robert - Frank - type photography
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2011, 04:12:46 PM »
Hmmm, I think the 5D MK3 will become the video DSLR in Canon's lineup with fewer MP (improving the DR of the sensor) and extra video features not found on any other camera and that we'll see a 3D introduced that has higher megapixels.

How they'll price them, I've no idea..

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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 04:31:16 PM »
@picsfor: good price tag. About 3100 swiss francs then... What do you mean with "working 25k working ISO"?
What is the so called native ISO by then? 6400 or 12.800?

5D2 has a working iso of up to 6400, with an H1 setting of 12800 and an H2 setting of 25600.

So making the 25600 a working iso would gain an extra 2 stops, giving an H2 setting up to 104k.

I enjoy shooting at 6400, i find it gives a nice grain - but if i could achieve the same at 25600 i can assure you the flash would stay off the camera a lot more and i could add options to my shots with the extra stops giving me aperture or shutter options to provide greater shot composition options.

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Re: Canon 5D X
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2011, 05:45:27 PM »
well, this would be great indeed. thanks. 25k working iso plus two stops...this yields even a nice grain at 51k plus some NR in PP. Looking forward to it  8) There is joy in the waiting. Cheers, Pedro
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2011, 07:37:42 PM »
I could see a 5D mk III being a high resolution (32 MP+)

and then a 5D X (or 3 D X) being the rumored 1D X sensor but less processing / video power (a single Digic V +)

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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2011, 08:49:18 PM »
Canon went as far as III in their lineup with the 1d series.
You forgot the 1D Mark IV.

Calling it the 5D X would make not make sense if you take Chuck Westfall's explanation for the X:
  • X for extreme (X-treme) performance
  • X for cross-over (X-over), since this represents the merging of Canon's two pro digital SLR cameras, the higher-resolution EOS-1Ds Mark III and higher-performance EOS-1D Mark IV, into a single next-generation model
  • The Roman numeral X, as in 10, because the EOS-1D X represents the 10th generation of pro-class SLR from Canon since the F-1 debuted in 1971

If Canon would regard the 5D series as pro-class, then only the last one would apply.
So my bet is on "Canon EOS 5D Mark III".
Funny that only the 1 series has the dash between "EOS" and the digit.

By the way, am I correct in these 10 generations?
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Re: Canon 5D X
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2011, 10:20:09 PM »
What does the X stand for? Did they explain? - Ooops sorry re read

I wonder why they steered away from 5 as the 1 series was always named after the digic processor number... eg 1d3 - digic 3 -  1d4 digic 4

- I realise they crossed over the two models... but I thought the numbering system was quite effective

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Re: Canon 5D X
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Re: Canon 5D X
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2011, 10:39:06 PM »

I'm equally confident it will be called Kingfish.

Oh, sorry, that's the code name they're using.

Either way, I'll buy one if it comes out during my lifetime.



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Re: Canon 5D X
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2011, 04:11:02 PM »
In the end I don't really care, as long as they don't start using the year of release, e.g. "Canon EOS 2012".
That makes your camera sound outdated the year after already.
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