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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Announcement in Q2 of 2014 [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2014, 07:15:44 PM »
So you're saying there's a chance...   ???
Just when I thought they couldn't possibly be any dumber, they go and do something like this... and totally redeem themselves!
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2014, 08:18:50 PM »
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What I'm hearing is that when they finally do produce a 7D2...

Anyone who buys one will also get a free toaster!!

Now, that's marketing.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2014, 08:54:56 PM »
So you're saying there's a chance...   ???
Just when I thought they couldn't possibly be any dumber, they go and do something like this... and totally redeem themselves!

quite possibly one of the greatest films, ever!  i was thinking the same exact thing  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2014, 09:26:50 PM »
There is a 100% chance that the 7dII will or will not possibly be released in the 2nd,3rd, or 4th quarter, depending of course on weather conditions and the alignment of the planets. If not, maybe or maybe not, 2015 will possibly see the release of the 7dIII, skipping over the 7dII. Depending on how many rumors there are, of course. CR 0.75. Maybe.
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« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2014, 09:45:37 PM »
I thought that the DigitalRev Blog had a good post about the 7D replacement.

http://www.digitalrev.com/article/10-camera-predictions-of-2014/MTk3NzMwMDgz

I got tired of waiting for the 7dii and bought a 70d for the interim figuring I would use it in the meantime and then sell it for the 7dii. I am not sure I want to get rid of it now unless the 7dii offers something much better and I don't mean a couple megapixels more or a couple fps faster.

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« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2014, 10:16:03 PM »
The 7D2 was past "due" a couple of years ago. I'm not saying that Canon won't make a 7D replacement but the firmware update seems like Canon was trying to appease the mob while they were figuring out what to do. I love my 7D and I believe that a replacement would be a top seller, provided it not only was fast but also reigned as a low noise camera as well. I would prefer that Canon kept (or dropped) the MP and concentrated on image quality over more megapixels.

It does seem likely that this is not the year for a 7D replacement. I think the 70D is poised to compete with the best Nikon crop sensor offering, the D7100. Canon may view the 70D as they did the 6D. It offered some improvement over the 5D2 in a newer body. But who knows?

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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2014, 10:31:27 PM »
Seeing as the D4s is coming with a 'new' 16 mp sensor, I'm going to be brave and guess the 7DII will also be 16 mp, aps class leading low light performance, very fast and no pop up flash. See you in the second quarter.
Please God hear our prayers. Only 16 megapixel camera with ISO 3200 without noise bothering, costing less than $ 2000.

I'd rather have 24, 32 or even 72MP.  More resolution and less noise that way.

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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2014, 10:31:27 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2014, 10:51:35 PM »
Seeing as the D4s is coming with a 'new' 16 mp sensor, I'm going to be brave and guess the 7DII will also be 16 mp, aps class leading low light performance, very fast and no pop up flash. See you in the second quarter.
Please God hear our prayers. Only 16 megapixel camera with ISO 3200 without noise bothering, costing less than $ 2000.

I'd rather have 24, 32 or even 72MP.  More resolution and less noise that way.

And then Canon makes it's real money on selling you lenses which the sensor won't outresolve!
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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2014, 12:34:22 AM »
Is this even news?

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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2014, 01:32:47 AM »
So, this is a rumor that there will soon be a rumor?

It is a discussion as to the accuracy of a rumour that there may soon be a rumour of a possible announcement that there may be a release of specifications in advance of a product release.

Translation: nobody knows


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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2014, 02:51:48 AM »
There is a 100% chance that the 7dII will or will not possibly be released in the 2nd,3rd, or 4th quarter, depending of course on weather conditions and the alignment of the planets. If not, maybe or maybe not, 2015 will possibly see the release of the 7dIII, skipping over the 7dII. Depending on how many rumors there are, of course. CR 0.75. Maybe.

I think you would do well as a weather forecaster

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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2014, 02:52:49 AM »
Is this even news?
yes because we replied, read it

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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2014, 03:26:57 AM »
Seeing as the D4s is coming with a 'new' 16 mp sensor, I'm going to be brave and guess the 7DII will also be 16 mp, aps class leading low light performance, very fast and no pop up flash. See you in the second quarter.
Please God hear our prayers. Only 16 megapixel camera with ISO 3200 without noise bothering, costing less than $ 2000.

I'd rather have 24, 32 or even 72MP.  More resolution and less noise that way.

And then Canon makes it's real money on selling you lenses which the sensor won't outresolve!

I would prefer the 16-18mpx low noise, high DR option myself. Keep it at 8-fps but improve the AF so that 8-fps in AI-Servo is totally reliable (cos it isn't now).

On the lens front, I'm not sure its in Canon's interest to go high mpx. You could argue that the more mpx you have the harder you can crop and hence the less need to by those expensive super telephoto's  ::)
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2014, 03:44:04 AM »
I would prefer the 16-18mpx low noise, high DR option myself.

For the millionth time, lower pixel counts do NOT mean lower noise and higher DR!  In fact, the other way is more likely.

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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2014, 04:39:49 AM »
Seeing as the D4s is coming with a 'new' 16 mp sensor, I'm going to be brave and guess the 7DII will also be 16 mp, aps class leading low light performance, very fast and no pop up flash. See you in the second quarter.
Please God hear our prayers. Only 16 megapixel camera with ISO 3200 without noise bothering, costing less than $ 2000.

I'd rather have 24, 32 or even 72MP.  More resolution and less noise that way.

That's a misconception. If you account for noise as a factor of total sensor area, it doesn't really matter how large or small your pixel are. The expectation is that you are downsampling any and all of those sensors to some common output size...i.e. the same magnification.

Otherwise, smaller pixels are always going to have more noise at the pixel level. Any technology you might apply to smaller pixels is applicable to larger pixels. Any potential technological gains you might have that allow smaller pixels are only going to make bigger pixels better. In no way can smaller pixels be less noisy than larger pixels. They may resolve more detail, but assuming Q.E. remains roughly the same, that detail WILL be noisier.


All else being equal, if you have 6 micron pixels and 3 micron pixels, the 3 micron pixels are going to have 1/4 the FWC. A 6 micron pixel might have 60,000e- max charge at ISO 100, where as a 3 micron pixel is going to have 15,000e- max charge. Since noise is the square root of the signal, you have 244e- noise with 6 micron pixels, and 122e- noise with 3 micron pixels. In other words, you have a 244:1 SNR with 6 micron pixels, and a 122:1 SNR with 3 micron pixels.

The only way to make those smaller pixels equal to the larger pixels is to downsample by a factor of two.
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