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Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon
« on: October 25, 2011, 06:53:57 AM »
I think that the EF 16-35 needs a replacement because of the bad performence on f.2,8. And Nikon has one that is superior. So will it be a completely new one with the zoom range 14-24 with is.

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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 07:56:35 AM »
I think that the EF 16-35 needs a replacement because of the bad performence on f.2,8. And Nikon has one that is superior. So will it be a completely new one with the zoom range 14-24 with is.

I want one for shure

The EF 16-35mm was released 4 years ago, and the 17-40mm & 14mm were announced around the same time.

As Canon has problems with the super teles it has already announced (300mm f/2.8, 400mm f/2.8, 500mm f/4, 600mm f/4), is commited to it's "pre-announced" 200-400mm, and is probably planning to release new TS-E 45mm & 90mm, I wouldn't expect Canon to come with a response to the Nikkor 14-24mm any time soon.

Personally, I've bought the new Sigma 12-24mm, which does the work for me. It isn't as good as the Nikkor 14-24mm, but it is cheaper and available on the shelves.

I find the Nikkor 14-24mm very attractive, and the rumor about an FX Nikkor 10mm very interesting, which makes me think of either switching over to Nikon, or maybe use the money I'm saving to buy a Nikon D700 / D800 + Nikkor 14-24mm (+ 10mm, if announced), rather than spending it on more Canon equipment.

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Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 10:01:28 PM »
I find the Nikkor 14-24mm very attractive, and the rumor about an FX Nikkor 10mm very interesting, which makes me think of either switching over to Nikon, or maybe use the money I'm saving to buy a Nikon D700 / D800 + Nikkor 14-24mm (+ 10mm, if announced), rather than spending it on more Canon equipment.

Or, given that you're going to use it for landscapes i'd guess, and if you're like me they're MF/Liveview, just buy a $5 adapter from ebay to mount the nikkor on your canon body. (As long as it's not a nikkor 'G' lens, they're stuck wide-open using an adapter)
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 10:20:15 PM »
I find the Nikkor 14-24mm very attractive, and the rumor about an FX Nikkor 10mm very interesting, which makes me think of either switching over to Nikon, or maybe use the money I'm saving to buy a Nikon D700 / D800 + Nikkor 14-24mm (+ 10mm, if announced), rather than spending it on more Canon equipment.

Or, given that you're going to use it for landscapes i'd guess, and if you're like me they're MF/Liveview, just buy a $5 adapter from ebay to mount the nikkor on your canon body. (As long as it's not a nikkor 'G' lens, they're stuck wide-open using an adapter)

The 14-24mm is G lens. Whether the rumored 10mm lens would have an aperture ring, if it would ever be, is unknown.

There are occasions on which I would like to have 2 DSLR bodies, having a Nikon body would allow me to buy the best lenses from each manufacturor, and the 14-24mm makes for a nice excuse to spend the money.

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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2011, 10:42:18 AM »
I think that the EF 16-35 needs a replacement because of the bad performence on f.2,8.

Bad performance?   :o
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2011, 11:51:59 AM »
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As long as it's not a nikkor 'G' lens, they're stuck wide-open using an adapter

adapter with aperature control available - expensive. possible since diaphragm is mechanically actuated

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/724050-REG/Novoflex_EOSNIK_NT_EOS_NIK_NT_Lens_Adapter_for.html

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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2011, 05:46:07 PM »
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As long as it's not a nikkor 'G' lens, they're stuck wide-open using an adapter

adapter with aperature control available - expensive. possible since diaphragm is mechanically actuated
Ooh, looks good, although damned expensive.
Just gotta wait a while until china picks it up and makes their own for $20.
would be very nice on some lenses, most new nikkors are 'G', look at the performance difference of their 85/1.4 G and non-G, the 'G' beats the samyang and sigma versions easily.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 11:01:45 PM »
quoted from Heidron:
  "16-35mm f2.8 II needs a replacement for bad performance" 

The ver II of this lens was released in 2007 and I'm more than happy with it's performance.  So, I'm not sure what the OP means by "bad performance". 

This site indicated a while back that Canon might release a 14-24mm 2.8L to compete with the nikon version.  I don't think this lens is considered a 16-35mm replacement.
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Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 11:38:51 PM »
I would love to see Canon release a 14-24mm f2.8L. First of all I'd love to have one. And secondly I think it's a range that Canon needs to address. It gives ASP-C and FF camera users excellent coverage with 3 lenses at f2.8. 14-24mm > 24-70mm > 70-200mm. Pricey coverage but good coverage.
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Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2011, 12:24:42 AM »
The ver II of this lens was released in 2007 and I'm more than happy with it's performance.  So, I'm not sure what the OP means by "bad performance". 

This site indicated a while back that Canon might release a 14-24mm 2.8L to compete with the nikon version.  I don't think this lens is considered a 16-35mm replacement.

Just from reading the photozone.de review (and not owning one), that's probably directed at the nearly 3-stops of vignetting at 16mm f/2.8, and the corner softness (1700lp vs 3300 in the centre).

Still, for my money it beats the wide-open softness of the 24-70L at 70mm, and its field curvature. It also beats the off-the-charts corner softness of the 17-40L at 17mm f/4.
Designing fast-zooms in the ultra-wide range is by no means easy to keep every design aspect under control, but i'd say those two probably are lower-performers than the 16-35v2..
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Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2011, 01:25:04 AM »
I think that the EF 16-35 needs a replacement because of the bad performence on f.2,8.

Bad performance?   :o
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Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2011, 04:42:28 AM »
Tokina AT-X 16-28 F2.8 PRO FX seems to be a very good lens for this range. And it is available now.

Also I'm thinking at it.

Perhaps there's someone which has hands-on experience with it to share?

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Re: Will it be a EF 14-24 2,8 L is from Canon
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2011, 07:09:30 AM »
I don't think i've ever been really 'lacking' IS at a focal length that short?


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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2011, 08:54:50 AM »
I don't think i've ever been really 'lacking' IS at a focal length that short?

Tha lack of IS is very much in my mind. I love to stand out in the foggy night and take pictures. And then i could definatly need an IS. Thats because the shutter speed in the night would be slower than 1/60 of a second

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2011, 11:38:55 AM »
I don't think i've ever been really 'lacking' IS at a focal length that short?

Tha lack of IS is very much in my mind. I love to stand out in the foggy night and take pictures. And then i could definatly need an IS. Thats because the shutter speed in the night would be slower than 1/60 of a second

The 16-35 is quite light weighting just around 650g compared to the 24-70 which weight around 900g. From this point of view i dont think you need an IS for 16-35. I dont own any 16-35 but i do own 50 1.2 which is just 100g lighter than 16-35 and even a shaky like me could hand held it at a shutter of 1/25.

I dont know about anyone else but for me this lens does not have a priority to have an IS compared to other lens.

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