July 28, 2014, 10:46:12 PM

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Which one would you prefer?

Canon 600mm f4 IS II
35 (40.7%)
Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
51 (59.3%)

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Voting closes: March 07, 2015, 09:24:56 AM

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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2014, 09:32:06 PM »
I would purchase the 200-400 simply because I like the flexibility of zoom. It woul be a wonderful addition on my 70-200

I zoom with my feet. ;-)

I chose the 600 II when I bought a big lens. Would make the same choice today, especially given that it is just as good as the EF 800 f/5.6 with the 1.4x TC attached (840mm f/5.6) and has the option to use the 2x TC for 1200mm f/8.
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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2014, 09:32:06 PM »

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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #31 on: March 07, 2014, 09:32:21 PM »
The point I am making is that I believe the 2 canons are the best but the tamron is very close behind and will give you undiferentiaded results under most conditions so anyone on a budget should take a good look at it.
You can also check this:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=929&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=5&API=2&LensComp=113&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=10&APIComp=2

Even a 100-400 L with the 1.4III extender is comparable with Tamron (just a little worse at the center but better at mid-frame and edges...)

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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #32 on: March 07, 2014, 09:42:00 PM »
The point I am making is that I believe the 2 canons are the best but the tamron is very close behind and will give you undiferentiaded results under most conditions so anyone on a budget should take a good look at it.

The Tamron is better in the center compared to the 100-400+1.4x. It is similar, but with different aberrations, midframe. The only place it really performs more poorly than the Canon 100-400 is the corner. And arguably, the center is the most important place in a lens like this for the primary target audience (i.e. birders/wildlifers w/ 7D|70D.)

For the price, the Tamron is an excellent lens, and I honestly think Canon will have a tough time competing with it with the current 100-400mm lens. Once Canon releases a 100-400mm II, then I think things might shift a bit back towards the 100-400mm lens being the better performer (albeit at a shorter focal length.)
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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2014, 09:42:15 PM »
Tron I checked.
Was really disappointed when I did further investigation. The Canon shows worse color fringing at f8. Hmmmm. :(

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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2014, 09:49:52 PM »
As I said at the center a little worse but better at mid-frame and much better at the corners. I am not suggesting to chose this but
I mentioned it as an exaggeration, just as Tamron was suggested as an alternative to the big whites. But true it is value for money...


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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2014, 09:54:32 PM »
The point I am making is that I believe the 2 canons are the best but the tamron is very close behind and will give you undiferentiaded results under most conditions so anyone on a budget should take a good look at it.

Thanks candc,
I agree ;) To have zoom range from 150-600 is very nice.
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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2014, 01:26:24 AM »
If Canon makes a 100-400 II for a reasonable price that significantly outperforms the  Tamron, it could also put the skids under the 200-400.
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« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2014, 01:26:24 AM »

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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2014, 04:29:33 AM »
I would purchase the 200-400 simply because I like the flexibility of zoom. It woul be a wonderful addition on my 70-200

I zoom with my feet. ;-)

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Somtimes zooming with feet may result in causing the subject to fly/run away because you step on branches (by accident) With the zoom you can sit in the same position, rotate with the gimbal and zoom close and further away (even add the 1.4 ext)
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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2014, 07:17:52 AM »
....esoteric, perhaps elitist thread but nevertheless interesting especially to someone who has to make a choice. Surely no one with both of these in his/her collection?!

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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2014, 08:06:28 AM »
I would purchase the 200-400 simply because I like the flexibility of zoom. It woul be a wonderful addition on my 70-200

I zoom with my feet. ;-)

I chose the 600 II when I bought a big lens. Would make the same choice today, especially given that it is just as good as the EF 800 f/5.6 with the 1.4x TC attached (840mm f/5.6) and has the option to use the 2x TC for 1200mm f/8.
If I had the money, I'd go with the 600II as well. It seems like you never have a long enough lens....

You can zoom with your feet, but many time you can't because of terrain, water, or common sense (a 24mm lens and a grizzly bear are not a good combination). For those cases you either need a long lens or a bear-proof suit.
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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2014, 08:18:34 AM »
It seems like you never have a long enough lens....
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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2014, 08:27:15 AM »
For me it is the 200-400 (I have had it for a few month now, and it´s really a nice lens), I love the versatility, for me it´s a keeper.

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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2014, 09:30:00 AM »
To me the question is a bit odd. The 600mm is made for a totally different use than the 200-400. They are both exceptional lenses and outstanding for their use. When going on a trip, where I don´t bring both, it has not been difficult to choose which one to bring.

It would be more difficult to compare the 200-400 with the 300 f2.8L IS II, with the 1.4xIII and 2xIII extenders. The 300 is clearly less flexible, but it is smaller, it gives you exceptional IQ, AF speed and a stop advantage and also very good performance with the extenders. You also have significant money saved for something else.

It´s a substantial cost to get both the 200-400 and the 600, but it would have to be for something really exceptional if I were to part with any of them.
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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2014, 09:30:00 AM »

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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2014, 11:56:11 AM »
I voted for the 200-400, simply because I don't shoot birds (or surfers). But I have no professional use for either of these lenses, and can't justify their prices for my hobby work.

(Somewhat off-topic, but no more so than the Tamron 150-600 posts) I own neither of these lenses (nor anything longer than 200mm, unless I slap in my 1.4x), but am waiting patiently for the successor to the Canon 100-400. Personally, I'm not a fan of zooms with more than a 3x range, and would like to see the 100-400 replaced by a 150- or 200-400 f/4.5-5.6, rather than a 100-400 II.
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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2014, 12:38:33 PM »
I would purchase the 200-400 simply because I like the flexibility of zoom. It woul be a wonderful addition on my 70-200

I zoom with my feet. ;-)

I chose the 600 II when I bought a big lens. Would make the same choice today, especially given that it is just as good as the EF 800 f/5.6 with the 1.4x TC attached (840mm f/5.6) and has the option to use the 2x TC for 1200mm f/8.
If I had the money, I'd go with the 600II as well. It seems like you never have a long enough lens....

You can zoom with your feet, but many time you can't because of terrain, water, or common sense (a 24mm lens and a grizzly bear are not a good combination). For those cases you either need a long lens or a bear-proof suit.
https://www.nfb.ca/film/project_grizzly/

Indeed. I zoom with my feet while using one of Canon's longest lenses. The longest, when you factor in the 2x TC. My point was that there is no reason to get the 200-400, the 600 is longer in every case, and still just as flexible because, well, you can "zoom" with your feet. ;)
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Re: Canon 600mm f4 IS II Vs Canon 200-400mm w/1.4x TC
« Reply #44 on: March 08, 2014, 12:38:33 PM »