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Jack56

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How can I get this apple sharp?
« on: March 09, 2014, 06:33:28 AM »
Dear oh dear,
What am I doing wrong?
This apple was taken with a 100mm L lens, ISO 640, f/14, 1/30 sec.
I didn't crop the image.
The "foreground" of the apple is sharp, the rounding curves aren't.
How do I get them sharp without loosing the blurring background or do you think this is all right?
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How can I get this apple sharp?
« on: March 09, 2014, 06:33:28 AM »

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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 06:45:39 AM »
you'll need to focus stack and merge the images, there are various software package out there for focus stacking.
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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2014, 07:22:18 AM »
you'll need to focus stack and merge the images, there are various software package out there for focus stacking.

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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2014, 08:03:50 AM »
Thanks for your advices. But ..... I've got Lightroom5. So, I have to buy myself photoshop too?

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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 08:46:45 AM »
I'm sure that there are standalone focus stacking software solutions.

You may not have to buy a full version of Photoshop, but you will probably have to buy something. Could be open source (free/donate) software too.

An internet search for "focus stacking software" is the obvious place to start looking...  ;D

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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 09:34:46 AM »
Helicon Focus http://helicon.dstudiosoft.com/index.html is a cheap stand alone starting at $30. I have had it for years but I think they stopped developing it after Adobe put a very similar function in Photoshop.
Too often we lose sight of the fact that photography is about capturing light, if we have the ability to take control of that light then we grow exponentially as photographers. More often than not the image is not about lens speed, sensor size, MP's or AF, it is about the light.

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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 09:48:50 AM »
Thanks again, all.
I've just had a look at a free trial of Zerene.
When I pictured this apple of course there was a little breeze. Not a lot but the apple moved a bit.
Is it true, that to stack several images, the subject really got be still in focus?

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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 10:57:50 AM »
When I pictured this apple of course there was a little breeze. Not a lot but the apple moved a bit.

Or use a longer lens and shoot from further away for greater depth of field.

Use this http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/dof-calculator.htm to calculate optimal settings.  If you can get the whole foreground in focus, you need to composite just two images: the foreground and the blurry background.

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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 12:10:48 PM »
If you stack there's no need anymore to use f/14. You can use f/5,6 and take small steps. The background will be better. To avoid a moving apple: wait for the wind to slow down and/or stabilize your apple with another branch (out of the frame!).
And take multiple tries, seperated by a black picture (to easily group your series apart in Lightroom afterwards).
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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2014, 01:07:25 PM »
Thank you again for all your advices. Will try again.

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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2014, 06:59:13 PM »
Please share your final results!
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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2014, 03:33:39 PM »
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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2014, 03:46:01 AM »
Stacking really is the only way to go in this case. This is a result that I got with stacking:



Your situation looks similar, so I would really give it a try.
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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2014, 06:55:31 AM »
Stacking really is the only way to go in this case. This is a result that I got with stacking:

While your pic is nice I really don't see how the "complicated way" of stacking is better than a bit larger DoF with focus set on the side of the apple (thus not the very foreground) to have DoF before and behind. The only limitation is the background proximity and it doesn't seem that close to me.

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Re: How can I get this apple sharp?
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2014, 06:55:31 AM »