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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2014, 05:01:47 PM »
Unless you are planning on upgrading to a full frame sensor anytime soon I would recommend the EF-S 17-55mm f2.8 IS USM. It isn't an L lens but it really should be. You get the same 2.8 wide aperture as the very expensive 24-70 but don't loose out on the wide angle with your crop sensor and get IS. In my opinion, you wouldn't miss the 55-70mm range if you teamed this with one of the 70-200's (which I agree are also "must have"). Personally I went with the f4 version, as it is less heavy.

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2014, 05:01:47 PM »

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2014, 12:39:11 PM »
The 24-70 f/4 IS is highly tempting for a hiker's FF landscape lens due to the weight (8 oz less than the f/2.8 II), IS, and semi-macro capacity. The 24-70 f/2.8 II is a consideration if one plans to do wide field astrophotography - coma is "ok" at 24mm and nonexistent at 35mm.

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2014, 06:34:41 AM »
Is there such a things as a must have lens ? , its not a necessity to own either a 24-70 or 70-200 you do it if it suits you, I personally shoot primes instead which give me the same or better quality in a much lighter faster package.

If you were going down that route though the F4L IS USM i presume will be very similar to the 24-105L which is a cracking lens and i have two of them which my second photographes use , though it will struggle for shutter speeds in average or low light. If this was going to be your one and only then it would be the 2.8 without a doubt.

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2014, 08:35:28 AM »
Here's a real newbie question...

After reading more than a few threads here I've seen that one of the same lenses keeps coming up in conversation - Either one of the EF 24-70mm's...

Is this the MUST HAVE lens for everyone?

If you have a full frame, they are both popular lenses. However, 24mm is really 38mm on your T3i, so for you, I'd say it isn't a must have lens.

You will want a lens that starts in the teens for close up/wide-angle photography. Good news for us crop sensors is that those lenses are typically cheaper!

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2014, 03:33:34 PM »
I see the 24-70 f/2.8L II lens a different way than I normally do regarding zooms vs. primes.  I don't shoot wider than f/2.8 on FF typically, so the added cost of the zoom was well worth it.  It beats any of Canon's primes in the 24-70 range, at f/2.8 and narrower.  I sold my 24L, 35L, and 50L when I got that lens, because the IQ was certainly better than yes, even those primes.

I don't recommend a 24-70 zoom lens, however, on a crop body (APS-C).  FF though, yes, for once, you really do get all of your $2299 worth.
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2014, 04:38:30 PM »
The 24-70 f/2.8 v2 offers the best IQ of any zoom lens in it's focal range by any manufacturer at the moment.  But it comes at a significant cost.  I use this lens on my 5Dmk3 and 1DX when I'm unable to use prime lenses.  I never considered the f/4 version because I already have the 24-105 f/4.  Optically the 24-70 f/4 IS is better than the 24-105, but the price difference isn't enough to warrant the upgrade (I got the 24-105 as part of a kit when I bought the 5Dmk3).

I also own a 60D with the 17-55 f/2.8 IS that I use when I need a lighter body for run and gun video recording.  It's a great combo and I think the 17-55 is the best option for people with crop body DLSRs...that is unless you plan to upgrade to a full frame in the near future.
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2014, 01:39:48 PM »
I had the 24-70 II for a while and sold it and picked up a 24-70 F/4.  Why?

I'm normally a prime shooter, so F/2.8 isn't really that fast.  The 24-70 2.8 II was a big bulky beast and I found myself grabbing the 35L more and more for F/1.6 - F/2 "fluff" shots.  The 2.8 had no IS so it wasn't a good video choice.

My lens lineup is now:
35L, 85L II, 135L, 70-200 II, 24-70 F/4 (mostly for video) and the Tokina 16-28 2.8 for UWA.

I don't find myself lacking in anything from 16-200mm.  The 24-70 F/4 is very sharp though - I just hated it as a walk around lens with the 5d3 + large flash.  Way overkill.

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2014, 12:12:44 PM »
The 24-70 2.8 II and the 70-200 2.8 II are my most used lenses.  Can't say enough about them.  A 14-24 2.8L would nicely fill in that bottom end though.   ;)
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2014, 02:30:57 PM »
The 24-70 2.8 II and the 70-200 2.8 II are my most used lenses.  Can't say enough about them.  A 14-24 2.8L would nicely fill in that bottom end though.   ;)

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2014, 12:46:22 AM »
Hello

Are here any practical Infos about the lower Distance Sharpness Problem of the 24-70 1:4L IS ?

I am not shure - do i need an 24-70 or not  :o .

I´ve testet the 24-70 2.8L II from a Friend - very nice  ;D - but i would like an IS !

actually : 17-40 4L - 50 1.4 - and 70-200 4L IS

i realy like UWW - so an 12-24 would be a Dream  :P .

Have a nice Day !

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2014, 05:15:03 AM »
Sorry, forgotten if necessary - Body is an Fullframe 5DM3

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2014, 07:09:34 AM »
Hello

Are here any practical Infos about the lower Distance Sharpness Problem of the 24-70 1:4L IS ?

I am not shure - do i need an 24-70 or not  :o .

I´ve testet the 24-70 2.8L II from a Friend - very nice  ;D - but i would like an IS !

actually : 17-40 4L - 50 1.4 - and 70-200 4L IS

i realy like UWW - so an 12-24 would be a Dream  :P .

Have a nice Day !

Bernd

I still like my 24-105L....  I see the advantage of the 24-70 f/2.8 II, but if it was a toss up between the 24-70 f/4 and 24-105 f/4, i would go for the latter. Cheaper and longer...  but the spare cash towards something else! :) Just to add confusion already! :P
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2014, 01:22:59 PM »
Bernd brings up an issue that has me hesitating about the Canon 24-70 f/2.8 - its relatively poor performance at and near its maximum magnification. This puts it out of the "one lens does everything well" category for me, as I often shoot in the 1:10-1:5 magnification range for nature photography. So, I am reflecting on the right solution for longer hikes. And I won't lie - IS can come in handy when it is difficult to deploy a tripod.

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2014, 12:53:59 AM »
Hello Nancy ( and all the others - of course )

I´ve never read about a slightly poor Performance of the EF 24-70 2.8 L II in closer Distance ?

The f4 IS Version was often criticize with this Problem.

I shot some Testpictures with the 2.8 II - normal Distances - and they were absolut sharp including
the Corners REALLY NICE LENS !

But - i think it is impossible to create a Lens that ist perfekt for all Situations ?

I would really like an IS - but for the next Future my Budget say´s NO to an new expensive Lens  :'( .

So i have the "Chance" to wait  ::) - and use the "Sneaker-Zoom" of my 50 1.4 .

I do not often uses Standard Focal Ranges, but - as you too - i search for a Lens for Hiking.

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Re: The MUST have Lens? "EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II or EF 24-70mm f/4L IS USM"
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2014, 04:13:01 AM »
There is no must haves. I hardly touch my 24-70mm and only have one as a backup in case one of my other lenses fails. The same with the 70-200mm, I still question if it's a must have for me.

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