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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2014, 04:41:24 AM »
Is there any evidence to presume that it will have similar IQ as the Zeiss? Any reviews/data? Or charts? (which I do not understand anyways...)

there is a fairly dodgy one I saw that indicates its not far off at all but I cant remeber what thread it was in
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2014, 04:41:24 AM »

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2014, 04:58:22 AM »
As someone who has not shot any video on my DSLRs, can someone explain to me the value in spending 4k on a 50mm zeiss lens to mount on a DSLR that is going to down sample the image to 2 mega pixels?

I shot this quick test four years ago:
https://vimeo.com/16611175

It's a CZJ Pancolar 50mm f/1.8, which is not soft at all, and you can see how much sharper video is when you close it down than when it is wide open. And that's on a T2i, soft and crappy by today's standards. Anyone shooting with a BlackMagic, or with a C100, FS700, etc, needs a sharp lens just as much as a photographer does.

For a wider test with lots of different lenses, go here:
http://www.similaar.com/foto/lenstests/lenstestsv.html

What's different is the kind of sharpness that we videographers need: we need good acutance, and good resolution is less important. But you'll usually find them both in the same lenses.

So: if the Sigma 50mm Art is as good as the 35mm Art, it will sell very well to videographers.
The only thing keeping me from buying these is that they are electronic lenses: there's no way to control aperture from the lens itself, so it will only work as long as I'm using a camera with a compatible mount. I make a point of buying glass that will be with me for decades, not years (my lens set is vintage Leitz for the Leica-R mount: it works on nearly anything, including Nikon F, Canon EF and M, Sony A and E, Pentax K, m43... so whoever sells the best camera gets my money, I just need to buy a new set of adapters and I'm good to go).

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2014, 07:12:31 AM »
im sure this is a nice lens.
i love my 35mm f1.4 from sigma.

but i will not buy this one.

but i hope they add a 85mm f1.2 to the art lineup in the future.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2014, 08:14:55 AM »
This has been the most incredible and inexpensive marketing I have ever seen! One guy from Sigma makes a comment months ago, that the Otus is their target and for months, we have been drooling over this lens. They announce it but don't let anybody see any images from the lens?! It's a lens! No images? Then someone posts some charts with the lens but the comparison others are done with other bodies.

I know this is a rumors site, it says it right in the name  ;) but I don't like being manipulated. I am drooling and excited about this lens also and I'm doing the math on what I would be willing to pay for a lens THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN AN IMAGE FROM! Sigma better F'ing deliver on this lens. This hype better be worth the wait. And, they better not slap a $2,000 price tag on it! ;D

Seriously, has Sigma even spent a cent on marketing this thing? They don't need to at this point, we are doing it for them.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2014, 11:12:09 AM »
I don't think that's as sad as the fact that lately the most anticipated lenses on a Canon rumor site aren't Canon lenses :P
Or even Canon Cameras.

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2014, 11:32:58 AM »
Good for Sigma, after all we're talking about EOS Mounts. Spread the love and sharpness all around.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2014, 11:56:18 AM »
For those asking about the cost of cine lenses, I can tell you that sharpness is not the prime consideration.  Lack of chromatic aberration, distortion, and light fall off are important as those are very hard to correct in post on video.  The DP may also decide on lenses based on color and bokeh, but that is a taste thing.  Sharpness usually isn't a consideration.  In fact, many films are shot with some sort of diffusion in order to reduce the sharpness. 

The good quality cine lenses are extremely expensive because they can be.  It's a niche market and the other production costs for shooting video are so high that the cost of the lens isn't much of a consideration.  Plus, cine lenses are almost always rented.  The primary consideration for cine lens design is ease of use and reliability: manual controls; a long enough focus throw for ease of following focus; similar housing sizes for ease of swapping lenses; parfocal on zooms, no breathing.  If any issue with a lens causes a slow down in the production, the cost to the production is far more than the cost of the lens.

Video guys are enamored with the Otus for same reason that photo guys like it.  Zeiss has great name recognition and there are bragging rights to having the sharpest glass even if it has a minimal effect on the final image.  Also, Zeiss is manual focus which automatically makes it better than any autofocus lens.  Even so, at $4000 I have no idea why they wouldn't just buy a dedicated cine lens.

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2014, 11:56:18 AM »

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2014, 03:24:59 PM »
I've heard $800 will be the price.

You really can't compare this lens to the Zeiss. The Sigma will be good for 90% - 95% of those who need/want a 50mm for their DSLR. The Zeiss is for those pros that needs the best DSLR AND video lens. Videographers are drooling over the Zeiss. They won't be for the Sigma.

I tried the Sigma 24-70mm and was very impressed. If the 50mm is equal or better than their 24-70mm, they certainly got a winner.

Are you referring to the mythical 24-70mm f2 or the f2.8...
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2014, 03:27:16 PM »
If it's under 800 I'll probably order on introduction..

If above I'll resist until I give up...

I expect 1300 @ release and I'll bite when it hits $1100.

But strangely enough... if it is 1100... I'm not sure when I'll bite.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2014, 11:00:36 PM »
I haven't seen Sigma lens prices drop. They are very firm except for the rebates. I don't expect the price to drop unless the demand is extremely higher than the supply. My local retailer didn't even know of this lens. I don't expect a temporary premium price locally.

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2014, 05:28:23 AM »
I haven't seen Sigma lens prices drop. They are very firm except for the rebates. I don't expect the price to drop unless the demand is extremely higher than the supply. My local retailer didn't even know of this lens. I don't expect a temporary premium price locally.

i have.

the 35mm f1.4 dropped 250 euro in germany.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2014, 05:43:10 AM »
I haven't seen Sigma lens prices drop. They are very firm except for the rebates. I don't expect the price to drop unless the demand is extremely higher than the supply. My local retailer didn't even know of this lens. I don't expect a temporary premium price locally.

i have.

the 35mm f1.4 dropped 250 euro in germany.

Except that street price has never really been 1000 EUR. I bought mine very shortly after release for 850 EUR. Now it's 750, which is pretty normal I guess. The canon 35 is went from 800 at release to the current 500.

I expect this 50mm to be priced similarly.

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2014, 06:14:40 AM »
I don't think that's as sad as the fact that lately the most anticipated lenses on a Canon rumor site aren't Canon lenses :P
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
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« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2014, 06:21:00 AM »
(Just because I have not written on CR for many days so I felt I should write something)

The sigma lens will be priced at $999 (±$50) in USA.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2014, 06:47:47 AM »
(Just because I have not written on CR for many days so I felt I should write something)

The sigma lens will be priced at $999 (±$50) in USA.

I don't think you're too far off. I do expect the price to be 999 USD / 899 EUR.

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« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2014, 06:47:47 AM »