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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2014, 07:06:59 AM »
I will wait until all of the first two batches are sold to all the people that just HAVE to have it, then get bored with it and sell them almost unused for way less than new, including a filter to me. Never fails.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2014, 07:06:59 AM »

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2014, 07:31:31 AM »
I haven't seen Sigma lens prices drop. They are very firm except for the rebates. I don't expect the price to drop unless the demand is extremely higher than the supply. My local retailer didn't even know of this lens. I don't expect a temporary premium price locally.

Last December the 35 art was on sale at Amazon for $700 in a lightening sale.  So that is the type of discount I was expecting.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2014, 07:36:34 AM »
I will wait until all of the first two batches are sold to all the people that just HAVE to have it, then get bored with it and sell them almost unused for way less than new, including a filter to me. Never fails.

I'm not adverse to used lenses in the least... but with sigma's history... I want to wait a while to see if there are any fatal flaws that I can't live with or if there's an xbox 360 type flaw (red ring of death) that affects launch models at a higher rate than the redesign.
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

XS->60D->5d Mkiii:18-55->24-105L:75-300->55-250->70-300->70-200 f4L USM->70-200 f/2.8L USM->70-200 f/2.8L IS Mkii:50 f/1.8->50 f/1.4->100L->85mm f/1.8 USM-> 8mm ->100L & 85L

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2014, 08:13:08 AM »
I haven't seen Sigma lens prices drop. They are very firm except for the rebates. I don't expect the price to drop unless the demand is extremely higher than the supply. My local retailer didn't even know of this lens. I don't expect a temporary premium price locally.

i have.

the 35mm f1.4 dropped 250 euro in germany.

Except that street price has never really been 1000 EUR

well as you can see in the diagram the street price was 999-950 euro for a while here.
then it dropped to 850 only to raise to 950 euro again.

amazon was one of the cheaper resellers who could really deliver the lens. 
i bought mine when it was 825 euro, in july last year.

today you can get the lens for 729-645 euro.
for 645 euro you even get a manfrotto 680B monopod with the lens.

so yes, there is quite a price drop with sigma lenses.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2014, 09:11:10 AM »
I will wait until all of the first two batches are sold to all the people that just HAVE to have it, then get bored with it and sell them almost unused for way less than new, including a filter to me. Never fails.

I'm not adverse to used lenses in the least... but with sigma's history... I want to wait a while to see if there are any fatal flaws that I can't live with or if there's an xbox 360 type flaw (red ring of death) that affects launch models at a higher rate than the redesign.

I will definitely find a seller close to me so I can have a go with it before I buy.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2014, 10:45:33 AM »
Meanwhile the Canon 50 1.4 seems to be the only lens not selling at the amazing 20% OFF refurb sale !
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2014, 01:30:14 PM »
All I can say is that I am really excited to see actual images from this lens compared to others. I really hope its a break through lens at an "affordable" price. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas  :)
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2014, 01:30:14 PM »

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2014, 01:46:24 PM »
I haven't seen Sigma lens prices drop. They are very firm except for the rebates. I don't expect the price to drop unless the demand is extremely higher than the supply. My local retailer didn't even know of this lens. I don't expect a temporary premium price locally.

i have.

the 35mm f1.4 dropped 250 euro in germany.

Except that street price has never really been 1000 EUR

well as you can see in the diagram the street price was 999-950 euro for a while here.
then it dropped to 850 only to raise to 950 euro again.

amazon was one of the cheaper resellers who could really deliver the lens. 
i bought mine when it was 825 euro, in july last year.

today you can get the lens for 729-645 euro.
for 645 euro you even get a manfrotto 680B monopod with the lens.

so yes, there is quite a price drop with sigma lenses.

Except that you're comparing the highest price at launch with the lowest price today, which is not fair nor representative.

Launch price has been 899 EUR, quickly settled down at 850 or so. Most shops today have it for around 750 EUR, so the real price drop is 100-150 EUR and not 250 EUR or more.

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2014, 01:52:40 PM »
I will wait until all of the first two batches are sold to all the people that just HAVE to have it, then get bored with it and sell them almost unused for way less than new, including a filter to me. Never fails.

HEY!....while your waiting would you like to purchase my Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM ?  I will throw in a Tiffen filter, but I am keeping the B&W!   8)
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2014, 03:11:55 PM »
I will wait until all of the first two batches are sold to all the people that just HAVE to have it, then get bored with it and sell them almost unused for way less than new, including a filter to me. Never fails.

HEY!....while your waiting would you like to purchase my Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM ?  I will throw in a Tiffen filter, but I am keeping the B&W!   8)

Ha! Lol, thanks but no thanks  8)
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2014, 03:15:25 PM »
I will wait until all of the first two batches are sold to all the people that just HAVE to have it, then get bored with it and sell them almost unused for way less than new, including a filter to me. Never fails.

HEY!....while your waiting would you like to purchase my Sigma 50mm f/1.4 EX DG HSM ?  I will throw in a Tiffen filter, but I am keeping the B&W!   8)
I almost bought one for $275 thinking it will tide me over until my price drop happens... but I resisted.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2014, 07:25:00 PM »
But I'd like to hear how the non-resolution upsides of the Otus might benefit video -- after all, it's not $4k just because of resolution and build quality.   I hear it manages chromatic aberrations well, has low distortion, great bokeh, etc. -- are those especially desirable for video?
For those asking about the cost of cine lenses, I can tell you that sharpness is not the prime consideration.  Lack of chromatic aberration, distortion, and light fall off are important as those are very hard to correct in post on video. 
This is your answer, unless you are shooting in RAW for video, it's nearly impossible to correct CA and fall off. Distortion is more correctable, but, it can be a pain if the scene has multiple subjects. You certainly dont want to be correcting it shot to shot.


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The good quality cine lenses are extremely expensive because they can be.  It's a niche market and the other production costs for shooting video are so high that the cost of the lens isn't much of a consideration.
Not to mention that a lens with a long focus throw and that is parfocal gives you so many more options on set. Renting the equipment is part of the expense, but having to do several takes cause the lens is crap to pull focus with costs more in time and energy

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2014, 09:04:45 PM »
As someone who has not shot any video on my DSLRs, can someone explain to me the value in spending 4k on a 50mm zeiss lens to mount on a DSLR that is going to down sample the image to 2 mega pixels?

This EOS Cinema prime vs L-series prime comparison is pretty good.  Shows how much better the cinema lenses are, although I don't know if the ziess is as good the EOS cinema lenses.....   

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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2014, 03:28:39 AM »
As someone who has not shot any video on my DSLRs, can someone explain to me the value in spending 4k on a 50mm zeiss lens to mount on a DSLR that is going to down sample the image to 2 mega pixels?

Because its not all down to dslr now is it.... The Otus will work wonders on a RED or Sony F55 and handle very well...

Have you seen the focus throw on the Sigma? Its litteraly like 20 degrees or something like that.
For video, being able to find focus very accurately manually is key. If moving the focus 2-3mm means moving sharpness 1-2 meters then the lens is useless for accurate focus. That whole in and out of focus thing that comes from people with no experience or pro├Žer gear.... Its not charming, its bad craftsmanship.

The Otus performs close to the ultra primes, its solid metal all the way, the focus ring is incredibly smooth and the focus throw is around 270 degrees and damn precise.

If I was only shooting stills and needed AF, I would consider the Sigma. But since I mainly do video on various cameras from dslr to sony yo red, the Sigma makes NO sense what so ever.
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Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art price to be announced on April 11th...
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2014, 06:37:42 AM »
Oh snap.  Hotcakes, I say.  It will sell like hotcakes.

And there's your problem - if they produce it for different mounts right from the start they'll run into huge production problems given the demand, and there will a early adopter's premium. Plus *announcement* doesn't mean delivery... so Canon has another 1/2 to 3/4 year to sell their ancient "micro"usm 50/1.4

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« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2014, 06:37:42 AM »