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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #90 on: March 27, 2014, 10:10:13 AM »
I tried and tried with other lenses but the only time I could get a shot of a unicorn pissing rainbows was with the 135L.
LOL - nice one!

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #90 on: March 27, 2014, 10:10:13 AM »

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #91 on: March 27, 2014, 11:47:11 AM »
Let the record show that the brilliant OP (two thumbs aimed at *this* guy) that came up with a topic that led to 7 pages of discussion that didn't....

...have someone be a d-bag to someone else.
...devolve into a physics rant, applications of charts and graphs, etc.
...have the dynamic range people hijack the thread.
...have people whine about the pace of Canon's development pipeline.

In short, I got 7 pages of honest opinion and debate that was insightful, on-topic and respectful.  I am so proud of this forum.  Nice work.

Verdict:  After careful consideration, I think I still want this lens (in a G.A.S. way), but even at that great price, my money would better be served elsewhere. 

  • I need a best in class autofocusing 50mm for all-purpose use (read: I will use it somewhere other than wide open, so the 50L is out.  :P)  I've been waiting for either the Sigma 50 F/1.4 Art or Canon's hammerlock future offering of the "50 that does everything 8-9 out of 10 well" a.k.a. 50mm non-L F/wehavenoclue IS USM, so the money might go there instead.
  • Throughout this thread, people continued to rave about the 85L.  I feel it's a specialist portraiture tool given it's focus speed (and I like all my lenses to serve multiple purposes given the range of things I shoot), but I should keep it in mind in the future.
  • I should not covet magical lenses in similar focal lengths to other magical lenses I own.  I need to use my wonderful 70-200 more often.

You folks rock.  Truly, thank you.

- A

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #92 on: March 27, 2014, 12:34:56 PM »
Let the record show that the brilliant OP (two thumbs aimed at *this* guy) that came up with a topic that led to 7 pages of discussion that didn't....

...have someone be a d-bag to someone else.
...devolve into a physics rant, applications of charts and graphs, etc.
...have the dynamic range people hijack the thread.
...have people whine about the pace of Canon's development pipeline.

In short, I got 7 pages of honest opinion and debate that was insightful, on-topic and respectful.  I am so proud of this forum.  Nice work.

Verdict:  After careful consideration, I think I still want this lens (in a G.A.S. way), but even at that great price, my money would better be served elsewhere. 

  • I need a best in class autofocusing 50mm for all-purpose use (read: I will use it somewhere other than wide open, so the 50L is out.  :P)  I've been waiting for either the Sigma 50 F/1.4 Art or Canon's hammerlock future offering of the "50 that does everything 8-9 out of 10 well" a.k.a. 50mm non-L F/wehavenoclue IS USM, so the money might go there instead.
  • Throughout this thread, people continued to rave about the 85L.  I feel it's a specialist portraiture tool given it's focus speed (and I like all my lenses to serve multiple purposes given the range of things I shoot), but I should keep it in mind in the future.
  • I should not covet magical lenses in similar focal lengths to other magical lenses I own.  I need to use my wonderful 70-200 more often.

You folks rock.  Truly, thank you.

- A
Nice follow up and that's why I love this forum, too!  It has it's negative threads but is one of the most positive forums I've ever been on, but I have to take issue with your, "I should not covet magical lenses in similar focal lengths to other magical lenses I own."  That's half the fun of having G.A.S.!!!  Just kidding - the 70-200 f/2.8 IS II is a magical zoom and I'm sure that you, like most of us, have barely tapped its potential. 

Thanks for the fun post 8)

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #93 on: March 27, 2014, 03:13:51 PM »
Verdict:  After careful consideration, I think I still want this lens (in a G.A.S. way), but even at that great price, my money would better be served elsewhere. 

- A

That's a pretty fair summary and why, in my opinion, we won't be seeing a revised version of the current 135L any time soon.

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #94 on: March 27, 2014, 04:25:25 PM »
Let the record show that the brilliant OP (two thumbs aimed at *this* guy) that came up with a topic that led to 7 pages of discussion that didn't....

...have someone be a d-bag to someone else.
...devolve into a physics rant, applications of charts and graphs, etc.
...have the dynamic range people hijack the thread.
...have people whine about the pace of Canon's development pipeline.

+1.
And you wrapped it up at the right time :)
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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #95 on: March 27, 2014, 09:30:20 PM »
if you want an 85 that is a bit more versitile, cheaper and less obtrussive with almost the same IQ as the 85 L have a look at the sigma 85 1.4.  I love mine. although who knows when sigma are going to do a revised art version so it might be better off waiting to see what they do and just be happy with the 70-200 for now as it's not like that lens is going to be limiting your photography too much :P

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2014, 01:18:06 AM »
I tried and tried with other lenses but the only time I could get a shot of a unicorn pissing rainbows was with the 135L.

Ahh the ever so elusive unicorn pissing rainbows shot. It is precisely why I always have the 135 with me. Lol.

As long as that unicorn doesn't piss in your ear while telling you it's raining...

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2014, 01:18:06 AM »

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2014, 04:43:40 PM »
FWIW, I used to shoot primes exclusively. I had a 35, 50, 85, 135. I was mostly doing fine art and street stuff, but 2.5 years ago I had a kid. Now I've sold all of the primes except the 35 and do 90% of my shooting with the 24-70 II and 70-200 IS. Since my 2.5 year old daughter rarely stops moving, f/2.8 is plenty wide enough in most cases, and the convenience and flexibility of the zooms outweighs the extra light and shallower DOF of the primes. And as others have pointed out the IQ, AF speed, flare control, bokeh, etc. of these new zooms is so good that I don't find myself missing the primes for that reason.

I still use the 35 (Sigma Art) for indoor work and when I don't want to lug one of the zooms around—though truthfully the size/weight difference between the Sigma 35A and 24-70 isn't that significant. I am considering trading the Sigma 35A for the 50A when it comes out, because I think the 50A might be more versatile as my single prime.

At some point when my daughter gets older and stops moving so continuously I might reacquire some primes for more deliberate work. But right now the zooms suit me best.

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2014, 04:57:14 PM »
FWIW, I used to shoot primes exclusively. I had a 35, 50, 85, 135. I was mostly doing fine art and street stuff, but 2.5 years ago I had a kid. Now I've sold all of the primes except the 35 and do 90% of my shooting with the 24-70 II and 70-200 IS. Since my 2.5 year old daughter rarely stops moving, f/2.8 is plenty wide enough in most cases, and the convenience and flexibility of the zooms outweighs the extra light and shallower DOF of the primes. And as others have pointed out the IQ, AF speed, flare control, bokeh, etc. of these new zooms is so good that I don't find myself missing the primes for that reason.

I still use the 35 (Sigma Art) for indoor work and when I don't want to lug one of the zooms around—though truthfully the size/weight difference between the Sigma 35A and 24-70 isn't that significant. I am considering trading the Sigma 35A for the 50A when it comes out, because I think the 50A might be more versatile as my single prime.

At some point when my daughter gets older and stops moving so continuously I might reacquire some primes for more deliberate work. But right now the zooms suit me best.

I only have one prime right now... what happened?  I sold some stuff, but there is no reason not to have a few wide open primes... just in case. 

My five month old likes to wiggle... and at shallow depth of fields... that simply won't do. 
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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #99 on: March 29, 2014, 07:52:30 PM »
85L is not that "specific portrait" tool when it comes to AF. I shot this with 5Dmk2's glorious AF.


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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #100 on: March 31, 2014, 10:20:13 PM »
FWIW, I used to shoot primes exclusively. I had a 35, 50, 85, 135. I was mostly doing fine art and street stuff, but 2.5 years ago I had a kid. Now I've sold all of the primes except the 35 and do 90% of my shooting with the 24-70 II and 70-200 IS. Since my 2.5 year old daughter rarely stops moving, f/2.8 is plenty wide enough in most cases, and the convenience and flexibility of the zooms outweighs the extra light and shallower DOF of the primes. And as others have pointed out the IQ, AF speed, flare control, bokeh, etc. of these new zooms is so good that I don't find myself missing the primes for that reason.

I still use the 35 (Sigma Art) for indoor work and when I don't want to lug one of the zooms around—though truthfully the size/weight difference between the Sigma 35A and 24-70 isn't that significant. I am considering trading the Sigma 35A for the 50A when it comes out, because I think the 50A might be more versatile as my single prime.

At some point when my daughter gets older and stops moving so continuously I might reacquire some primes for more deliberate work. But right now the zooms suit me best.
We have a 2-year-old son and I fully understand.  I mostly use my 24-70 2.8II indoors and 70-200 2.8 II outdoors.  I still work in some f/2 shots with my 135L or wide aperture shots with my 50 1.4 or 85 1.8 when he slows down, but it's tough with those primes when he is active, which is most of the time he's awake.
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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #101 on: March 31, 2014, 10:32:36 PM »
My five month old likes to wiggle... and at shallow depth of fields... that simply won't do.

OTOH, f/1.2 means not having to clean the house, because all the background clutter is rendered as a pleasing, colorful blur.  Life lessons from someone with three kids.  ;)
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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #102 on: March 31, 2014, 11:16:38 PM »
My five month old likes to wiggle... and at shallow depth of fields... that simply won't do.

OTOH, f/1.2 means not having to clean the house, because all the background clutter is rendered as a pleasing, colorful blur.  Life lessons from someone with three kids.  ;)

Lol. Get out of my head, Neuro.

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
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« Reply #103 on: April 01, 2014, 02:48:25 AM »
OTOH, f/1.2 means not having to clean the house, because all the background clutter is rendered as a pleasing, colorful blur.  Life lessons from someone with three kids.  ;)
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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
« Reply #104 on: April 03, 2014, 01:53:02 AM »
I disagree that F2 is only for one person and you need to stop down for multiple people

I use 1.2 for group shots all the time sometimes as much as 30+ people, wide open, DOF is always more than sufficient

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Re: How much will I use the 135L if I already have the 70-200 F/2.8 IS II?
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