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AI Servo AF Versus One-Shot AF For Stationary Subjects
« on: March 25, 2014, 11:05:53 AM »
Having read several posts discussing the pros and cons of using AI Servo AF versus One-Shot AF for stationary subjects, I thought I'd ask the one guy who could best address this issue for us. 

He was kind enought to allow me to post his reply to my questions here:

Hi, Steve:

There are no differences in focusing speed, focusing accuracy, or focusing point selection algorithms between One-Shot AF and AI Servo AF with EOS DIgital SLR cameras, period.

The basic difference between them is that One-Shot AF locks focus as soon as it is complete, whereas AI Servo AF continues to track focus as long as it is active. This is why One-Shot AF is recommended for stationary subjects, while AI Servo AF is recommended for most types of moving subjects, especially those that move towards or away from the camera as opposed to lateral movement across the frame.

There are other differences between One-Shot AF and AI Servo AF that can affect some kinds of photography:

1) AI Servo AF allows photographers to release the shutter at will, regardless of whether focusing has been completed or not. This is intentional, in order to allow the photographer to prioritize capturing the peak moment regardless of focusing status. The trade-off is the fact that there is no guarantee that the focus will be sharp on a stationary subject in AI Servo AF, especially during handheld photography at close range with shallow depth of field. Under these specific conditions (one more time for emphasis, I am saying Stationary Subject, handheld photography at close range with shallow depth of field), One-Shot AF is a more reliable focusing method because it locks focus while AI Servo does not.

2) As light levels diminish, eventually AI Servo AF will cease to function before One-Shot AF does. This is because One-Shot AF allows a longer sampling period for AF measurement in low light than AI Servo does. (The AF measurement sampling period is analogous to a shutter speed for the AF sensor. The longer the sampling period, the greater the sensitivity.) Remember that the AF sensor in the camera has a low light threshold, typically EV -1 or -2 depending on the camera; this figure is quoted specifically for the center AF point with One-Shot AF. It's usually about 2 stops less than than with AI Servo AF, and even lower with off-center focusing points. Therefore, if maximum sensitivity for AF in low light is your priority, we strongly recommend One-Shot AF with the center focusing point.

Going back to point 1, current professional EOS models like the 1D C, 1D X and 5D Mark III give photographers more control over shutter release priority in AI Servo AF than older models. You'll notice that there are menu settings in the AF menu section for 'AI Servo 1st Image Priority' and 'AI Servo 2nd Image Priority.' These settings let you control how long the camera waits before releasing the shutter in AI Servo, which is better than older cameras like the 1D Mark IV or 5D Mark II. But it still lets the camera shoot when it is out of focus in AI Servo AF if you insist. In other words, shutter release in AI Servo AF is always a matter of "when," it is never a matter of "if" the subject is in focus.

The bottom line is simply this: AI Servo AF is *not* equivalent to One-Shot AF for stationary subjects in terms of shutter release priority, especially for handheld shots with shallow depth of field, and we never claimed that it was. That's why we offer both focusing modes.  This doesn't mean that AI Servo *can't* get it right.  It means that One-Shot AF is more reliable under these specific conditions.

Hope that helps.


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AI Servo AF Versus One-Shot AF For Stationary Subjects
« on: March 25, 2014, 11:05:53 AM »

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Re: AI Servo AF Versus One-Shot AF For Stationary Subjects
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2014, 11:38:29 AM »
Great explanation from Chuck, thanks for sharing! Since I switched to BBF I usually end up using servo even for stationary objects, so I'm glad to have this explanation of the limitations of each to know when to switch back to one shot. Specifically, I knew about locking focus vs. tracking, and shutter priority vs. focus priority, but did not know about the light sensitivity due to sampling time, which is very interesting.

Again, thanks for sharing!
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2014, 12:31:49 PM »
Thanks for asking…and posting the response!
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2014, 12:49:44 PM »
Thanks for sharing this.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2014, 01:09:07 PM »
This is one of those things we imagine to know the answer. But it is very good to make sure we're doing the right way. ::) Thanks for sharing.

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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2014, 01:14:24 PM »
Thanks and I'm happy to see that his reply matches what I've experienced, and disagrees with most of what I've read.  It seems like there is a lot of misinformation out there on the two settings.  Also, I noticed that he didn't mention AI Focus :)

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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2014, 01:39:10 PM »
Thanks and I'm happy to see that his reply matches what I've experienced, and disagrees with most of what I've read.  It seems like there is a lot of misinformation out there on the two settings.  Also, I noticed that he didn't mention AI Focus :)

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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2014, 01:39:10 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2014, 01:53:16 PM »
Thanks and I'm happy to see that his reply matches what I've experienced, and disagrees with most of what I've read.  It seems like there is a lot of misinformation out there on the two settings.  Also, I noticed that he didn't mention AI Focus :)

Everyone knows Ai Focus doesn't work ;D, and none of the 1-series have Ai Focus.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2014, 01:53:48 PM »
Great information!
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Re: AI Servo AF Versus One-Shot AF For Stationary Subjects
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2014, 01:58:10 PM »
The part about focusing performance in low light was really helpful.

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2014, 02:24:39 PM »
Great info.  I stay in AI Servo 99% of the time, because I prefer it for all subjects.  The only time I would prefer one shot is to focus wit the subject in the middle, then recompose with the subject off center.  I don't do this much.

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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2014, 02:40:06 PM »
Hope I am right, but one big difference is, that in one shot I can use the beep, when the focus is locked and there is a green dot inside the viewfinder that shows me, that the focus is locked( it stays green)
These things doesn't work/show up using ai-servo. (On my 5d iii)


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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2014, 02:46:54 PM »
Thanks for sharing!

reminded me that I got stuck a bit in one shot and I wasn't really aware of the "servo allows shutter release before AF has locked on" part
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2014, 02:51:35 PM »
And btw, when you remove af-on from the shutter and using backbutton focus ( af-on) ai-servo acts like one-shot... (see custom settings)... just release af-on button and the focus will be locked...

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2014, 02:55:45 PM »
I've used AI Focus with my 6D quite a lot and it definitely works.  In fact, for that rather AF lame camera it struck me as being better than AI Servo but I won't argue that point.  I don't really understand the difference between those two, though.

Now, I'm a beginner and have only reached about 15 000 on my shutter but I've posted a fair number of shots on CR that are respectable so there is some proof for my assertion.  Still,it's just my 2 cents worth. ;)

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2014, 02:55:45 PM »