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New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« on: March 26, 2014, 09:26:23 AM »

Northlight has received word that Canon will be releasing a high resolution big brother to the EOS 5D Mark III in the fall. This is another reference to an EOS 3D type of camera (it’s been going on since this site started). The higher resolution camera would also shoot 4K video and have an abundance of video features. Pricing for the camera would come above the EOS 5D Mark III.


There’s always mentions of high resolution sensors showing up in Canon DSLRs for testing around the globe, and I don’t doubt that it’s going on. We were told back in the fall that Canon would be releasing 3 new DSLRs in 2014, and we’ve already seen one in the 1200D. The other will most definitely be the followup to the EOS 7D, the third camera is unknown. I’d like to think it won’t be a replacement to the EOS Rebel T5i.


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New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« on: March 26, 2014, 09:26:23 AM »

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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2014, 09:37:40 AM »
wow it's going to be a busy ol last quarter with all these new cameras and 'year of the lens' lenses.  ::)

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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
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<p><a href=\"http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_rumours.html\" target=\"_blank\">Northlight has received word</a> that Canon will be releasing a high resolution big brother to the EOS 5D Mark III in the fall. This is another reference to an EOS 3D type of camera (it’s been going on since this site started). The higher resolution camera would also shoot 4K video and have an abundance of video features. Pricing for the camera would come above the EOS 5D Mark III.</p>
<p>There’s always mentions of high resolution sensors showing up in Canon DSLRs for testing around the globe, and I don’t doubt that it’s going on. We were told back in the fall that Canon would be releasing 3 new DSLRs in 2014, and we’ve already seen one in the 1200D. The other will most definitely be the followup to the EOS 7D, the third camera is unknown. I’d like to think it won’t be a replacement to the EOS Rebel T5i.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href=\"http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_rumours.html\" target=\"_blank\">NL</a>]</p>
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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2014, 10:11:18 AM »
Don't care about 4k, but give me a switchable EVF/OVF and I'll be all over that! :) I can hope..

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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2014, 10:17:02 AM »
Can movie theaters show 4K movies with their digital projectors?  I'm not really sure what resolution the average 'non-hollywood' film is shot in though.  I would assume it is 1080p or the wide screen equivalent.
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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2014, 10:30:41 AM »
Well, we have been waiting and waiting....

I think Canon is struggling to bring out a sensor that can compete with Sony's. To make it competitive they have to spend a lot more money on it, that's why the camera will cost more than the 5D3...what other reason can there be? If their technology was as good as Sonys why haven't they released it yet?

If I was Canon I would have just sourced my 36mp sensor from Sony! Then they could have had a Camera on the shelves long ago, and at a reasonable with  price point many happy Canon customers ...

At the moment my money votes for the A7R!


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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2014, 11:22:26 AM »
I think Canon is struggling to bring out a sensor that can compete with Sony's. To make it competitive they have to spend a lot more money on it, that's why the camera will cost more than the 5D3...what other reason can there be? If their technology was as good as Sonys why haven't they released it yet?

Given how badly the Sony "sensors" are selling, Canon would be foolish to try to emulate that strategy.  No, Canon is trying to design a product that will increase their profits, just like all other companies.  Relative to other companies, Canon is doing quite well.  The reason they haven't come out with the thing you personally want is that they don't have to.  They will produce new products when the market demands them.  Until then, they'll milk (MILC?) the R&D they already have invested in the current line.

I know a die-hard Nikon fanboi who has a D800, and loves it.  He recently shot a 5D3 at a wedding, and confided to me that if he didn't already have money invested in Nikon gear, he would seriously consider buying a 5D3.  It ain't all about the sensor.

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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2014, 11:32:55 AM »
Well, my 5D3 still rocks. My faint guess with this new rumor is: Nikon somehow has a fairer strategy. They have an affordable FF (D600, here I'd prefer the 6D at 20 MP), an affordable high MP FF (D800, although there is no MRAW mode!) and a lower priced (in comparison to the 2 years old 1Dx) 16MP flagship D4s. So, it will look a bit awkwarded to me, if they ask an extra premium for more MPs. Hope they get their sensor tech resolved with this new babe. That is the only point of interest for me. And if Canon does so, there is hoping that the pixel count of the allrounder 5Ds will remain about the same, plus faster processors and improved sensor tech. I would really like to see improved ISO 51k (RAW) somewhere near the ISO 20k-25k of my current cam, IQ wise. What I've seen in relation to RAW IQ from a friend of mine testing his new D4s is quite nice. ISO 102400 and even 204800 are a nice alternative and for b/w you even dare to shootISO 409600.
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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2014, 11:38:18 AM »
I have a 6D and its a pretty cool camera, chose it above the 5D3 because for my type of shooting killer AF is not necessary, and I didnt want to pay so much more for the same size sensor. Sure Canon makes lots of money with their existing line up. But you know back in the days Canon was at the fore front, first affordable full frame, then the 5D2, and then? we waited and waited.. and are still waiting! I had my 5D2 for four years before I got the 6D. I would have spend money on a D800e equivalent, even if it was more expensive than the 5d3, which the D800 is not btw.  I do need more pixels now and again. A perfect second camera will be the A7r ...which means the waiting's theoretically over..once I have it, no matter how good the rumored megapixel offering will be, I wont buy another camera for at least three years. The best thing about mirror less is that we are not tied to one brand anymore. I can walk into a shop today and get a camera that will fit my TS24...36mp and that lens sounds very tempting to me!

Why are we waiting so long for Canons megapixel offering? Personally I just don't think their technology is there yet... ( but I would love to be wrong! )

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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2014, 11:46:19 AM »
Why are we waiting so long for Canons megapixel offering? Personally I just don't think their technology is there yet... ( but I would love to be wrong! )

Again, the question is not whether they have or don't have the tech, it's whether Canon's number crunchers think it will be profitable.  The sales of the D800 and A7R have been lackluster, so what's the point of doing a studio/landscape camera that won't make you a healthy profit?  Don't get me wrong: I'm glad the D800 and A7R are out there to push the tech and increase user demand.  I just believe that Canon uses smart business strategy: they make products that sell profitably.

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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2014, 12:06:41 PM »
Can movie theaters show 4K movies with their digital projectors?  I'm not really sure what resolution the average 'non-hollywood' film is shot in though.  I would assume it is 1080p or the wide screen equivalent.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2014, 12:10:54 PM »
wow it's going to be a busy ol last quarter with all these new cameras and 'year of the lens' lenses.  ::)

Well, there is that world renowned trade show that only happens every other year coming this September.

Hopefully a 32MP+ APS-C sensor is included in all those new sensors being tested, we need an SLR to compete with the compact super zooms.
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2014, 12:36:50 PM »
Can movie theaters show 4K movies with their digital projectors?  I'm not really sure what resolution the average 'non-hollywood' film is shot in though.  I would assume it is 1080p or the wide screen equivalent.

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2014, 12:41:55 PM »
This actually makes sense to me, although I've been skeptical about Canon's "need" to release a high megapixel full frame camera.

I'll go back to a prediction I make quite a while back – I can see Canon releasing a "5D HD" that offers a pixel density somewhere in the same neighborhood as the 7D (46 mp), perhaps a little less. Same body, same basic functionality (with a slower frame rate likely) just a new sensor and maybe a little faster processor.

It would give customers a choice, but keep their production costs down since many of the components could be shared by both bodies.  Canon has seen the D800 sales figures, so they know that high megapixels aren't in huge demand, but they probably also know there is a small subset of customers that will pay a premium for more resolution. Give them what they want, but keep the production costs down.
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Re: New Full Frame Camera in 2014? [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2014, 12:47:23 PM »
Makes me feel better about waiting out another year with the 7D as I slowly upgrade glass.  Results still improving as I await the next thing.  I just really don't want to wind up paying for 4K crap in the body. 

Timing is strange though, falls close to where I might guess a 5DIV would come in...

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