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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2014, 09:26:03 PM »
I ended up ordering the Canon 35 IS if anyone is curious. Looking forward to getting it in the mail and putting it to use!

That's a good choice... similar focal length, an additional stop of light, and a bonus of having IS.  How much did you spend on it?
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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2014, 09:26:03 PM »

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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2014, 05:07:45 AM »
I ended up ordering the Canon 35 IS if anyone is curious. Looking forward to getting it in the mail and putting it to use!

That's a good choice... similar focal length, an additional stop of light, and a bonus of having IS.  How much did you spend on it?
$600 + an extra $50 for the hood. I understand the price fluctuates a little and others have gotten it for $550, but I didn't want to wait indefinitely for a sale/rebate.

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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2014, 09:29:03 AM »
I ended up ordering the Canon 35 IS if anyone is curious. Looking forward to getting it in the mail and putting it to use!

It's one of the sharpest lenses I've ever used. I didn't care much for any of the 40's I've used. And the 17-55 was the sharpest crop lens I've owned. But I really prefer the prime except when in tight spots and I can't move backwards.

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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2014, 09:52:51 AM »
Good Choice, I love my 35mm F2 IS it is never off the camera :)

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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2014, 10:27:14 AM »
Consider looking for a used 28mm f1.8. I think it works really well with aps-c sized sensors, giving a equivalent full frame view of  ~45mm. I used almost exclusively this lens with my 600d.

+1.  I've been using that lens with my 500D.  Now, I'm still using it with my 6D and it seems to be sharper than ever.  Together with the 50mm F1.8 II, I've got a fairly light combo.  The fact that it focuses fast even in low-light is a plus especially indoors.  There are lot of people selling theirs after they moved from APS-C to FF due to the kit lens they got when buying their FF.  You can get a lot of deals for this lens.  For me, I'll keep mine.  It's very useful for me.  It's sharpest when used @ F2.8 and above but F2.2 is sharp enough especially for portraits.

+1 for the 28mm 1.8. Great little lens.. Usually use it at 2.2 though. Sold the nifty fifty for many reasons.. The 40 is great but would love to get the 35 f2 IS. From hearing so many great things about it!
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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2014, 11:42:08 AM »
I ended up ordering the Canon 35 IS if anyone is curious. Looking forward to getting it in the mail and putting it to use!
I think you made a good choice. And, hey, if it doesn't work out - you can just send it to me. I've always wanted a 35mm prime. ;)
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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2014, 12:32:57 PM »

But without having used the 40/2.8 I am not sure the improvement provided by the 35 f/2 will knock your socks off. You are much better off getting a good copy of the 50/1.4 in my opinion.

While I liked my 50mm f/1.4 for particular things, and having bought it for the improved quality over the f/1.8, I regret to say that I fell into the same problem sooooo many others experienced.  Even though the lens has been out for years, it has continued its habit of a failing focusing mechanism.  19 months after I bought mine, I started having inconsistent focus on shots over 10 feet away.  I ignored advice found on many forums that said to avoid the lens.  I 'hoped' that newer lenses had hardware tweaks that solved the mechanical failure.  Not so.  And the price of repair is too high to justify.  It would be smarter to buy a new lens with warranty if I desperately felt the need to replace it with the same 50mm f/1.4 model.   Instead I'm putting that money towards other desires, and only very seldom miss the 50 when I want to do something very particular.

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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2014, 12:50:26 PM »
I ended up ordering the Canon 35 IS if anyone is curious. Looking forward to getting it in the mail and putting it to use!

That's a good choice... similar focal length, an additional stop of light, and a bonus of having IS.  How much did you spend on it?
$600 + an extra $50 for the hood. I understand the price fluctuates a little and others have gotten it for $550, but I didn't want to wait indefinitely for a sale/rebate.
Not a bad price given where it started and that we're in the rebate doldrums until the Fall...congrats on the new lens and by all account, it's an awesome one.  Be sure to share your photos with us!
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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2014, 01:01:24 PM »
While not knowing your financial situation, I can recommend keeping the 40mm.  It works well as compact body cap that still has your camera in a ready-condition.  Additionally, you may always find situations where you don't want to risk your nice 35mm to the elements you're shooting in.  Far better to risk a $150 lens in those instances.  Not to mention that it is relatively similar to the 35 and 50 focal lengths to serve as a useful backup in case the unthinkable happens to your primary lenses.  Similar to why I kept my Mk I 50mm f/1.8 loooooong after I got the 50mm f/1.4, and still keep it despite also owning the 40mm.  They were cheap investments and easy to justify keeping around for those "oh crap" situations.   I got my 40mm for $130 open-box from Best Buy when I wandered past their photo cabinet on my way to get a TV.  I instantly loved it, despite the fact that I really prefer the 35mm focal length as a matter of choice in shooting.

I have a whole litter of lenses, but the one that is on the camera I always have near me "just-in-case" is the 40mm.  Small, unobtrusive, and more than capable of capturing fleeting moments in most documentary situations.  The 40mm, a 6D, and a 580EX II now form the cornerstone of my lightweight running photography pack.  Sometimes I go out with nothing but that setup and the 135L in my bag when I'm cycling or running with a group or for long treks away from roads during ultra marathons, etc..  Carrying the 24-70 zoom or even one of my 35 1.4s would significantly impact my range given pack space, weight, and food considerations. 

Your situations may not be similar, but consider those situations in your own photography where being light, small, and unobtrusive would be a plus.  Not every situation requires IS or the best IQ you have available in your kit at or near a given focal length. 

It's a cheap investment that you've already made.   
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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2014, 01:16:23 PM »
I ended up ordering the Canon 35 IS if anyone is curious. Looking forward to getting it in the mail and putting it to use!

That's a good choice... similar focal length, an additional stop of light, and a bonus of having IS.  How much did you spend on it?
$600 + an extra $50 for the hood. I understand the price fluctuates a little and others have gotten it for $550, but I didn't want to wait indefinitely for a sale/rebate.

Let us know what you think of it once you get it!

I've just recently "discovered" this lens. I had the 40mm as a lightweight alternative to my f2.8 zooms but sold it because of what it lacks. However, if this alternative offers another stop of light, IS, improved autofocus speed, comparable focal length, comparable IQ, and comparable weight... win. BIG win!
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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2014, 07:47:14 PM »
While not knowing your financial situation, I can recommend keeping the 40mm.
That sounds like good advice to me. As an aside, some folks in this thread helped me to see that the 40mm is actually very sharp, and I've grown a new appreciation for the lens over the past couple weeks. Forced myself to take it out into the sunlight and take some stopped down shots. Looks great.

Still wanted the 35 IS for indoor use.

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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #41 on: April 24, 2014, 02:22:38 AM »
While not knowing your financial situation, I can recommend keeping the 40mm.
That sounds like good advice to me. As an aside, some folks in this thread helped me to see that the 40mm is actually very sharp, and I've grown a new appreciation for the lens over the past couple weeks. Forced myself to take it out into the sunlight and take some stopped down shots. Looks great.

Still wanted the 35 IS for indoor use.

Good to hear that you're finding out how good the 40 is. The IS of the 35 plus its excellent sharpness across the frame would make it good for in door - as that it when you do require corner sharpness.

A few have mentioned the 28/1.8. This may not be suitable for your needs; it is very much an 'art' lens ( pinching Sigmas title) and although razor sharp in the centre it really falls off mid frame. Even stopped down to f8 it can't match say the 24-105 mid frame. However if you want to shoot wide angle shallow depth of field, dreamy type shots it is excellent.

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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2014, 03:10:43 AM »
I shoot on a t4i and currently own just two lenses - the Canon 85 1.8, and the Canon 40 2.8. I generally use the 85 outdoors and the 40 indoors, and that works pretty well for me.

The quality difference between my two lenses is pretty big though. The bokeh on my 85 is awesome, and it's also super sharp. I know this is a little biased because I generally use it in better lighting conditions, but I think it's objectively a much better lens. I'd like to get something just as good for my indoor uses (parties, pictures of my 1 year old, etc).

One option would be the Sigma 35mm 1.4, which is at the very top of the price range I could consider ($900). Coming in a little less would be the Canon 35mm 2.0. Would I notice enough of a quality upgrade going from the 40 to the 35? Anything else I should be considering?

Thanks.

As many have said, 35mm f/2IS is super sharp, focus very fast and it has very accurate AF, even in low light. I replaced my 40mm f/2.8 that was very sharp but the 35mm f/2IS is sharper and faster. I use it a lot for street photography to group pictures. 35mm(A) 1.4 due to its larger aperture is by many better but, I personally prefer the ability to shoot at 1/5s and still get sharp pictures.
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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #42 on: April 24, 2014, 03:10:43 AM »

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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #43 on: April 24, 2014, 05:51:17 AM »
I can recommend keeping the 40mm.  It works well as compact body cap that still has your camera in a ready-condition.  Additionally, you may always find situations where you don't want to risk your nice 35mm to the elements you're shooting in.  It's a cheap investment that you've already made.

Agree completely.  The 40mm f/2.8 pancake "lives" on my 6D.  Small, light, & minimum risk.

Another really fantastic little lens that I use a lot is the Voigtländer 20mm f/3.5 pancake.  A little "kit" I often carry instead of my 24-105L (which has the "shorted ribbon cable" problem, awaiting repair) consists of the 20mm Voigt, 40mm pancake, and the 85mm f/1.8 USM.  The 20/40/85 lengths complement eachother well.  Any two of them will fit comfortably into a grey Canon "LP1219" lens bag.  I have another lens bag that I use for accessories (handy to be able to take the two of them out quickly at security checkpoints too).  I just chuck the two of them & the 6D in a neoprene case (usually with the 40mm mounted) into whatever bag or backpack I'm carrying at the time & go. 

BTW the diminutive 270EX II also fits into the category of small/light/cheap; I consider it a must-have if you've got a camera with no flash like my 6D.  I keep it loaded with lithium batteries as they last forever & don't fade.


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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
« Reply #44 on: April 24, 2014, 06:28:56 AM »
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A few have mentioned the 28/1.8. This may not be suitable for your needs; it is very much an 'art' lens ( pinching Sigmas title) and although razor sharp in the centre it really falls off mid frame. Even stopped down to f8 it can't match say the 24-105 mid frame. However if you want to shoot wide angle shallow depth of field, dreamy type shots it is excellent.

While I do agree with you, in my experience, the lack of corner sharpness is much less noticeable when using the 28mm f1.8 with a APS-C sensor.
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Re: Looking for an upgrade to my shorty 40 (indoor/general lens)
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