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New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: March 30, 2014, 12:14:15 PM »

Below is an image showing the new Canon cinema lens with servo that will be announced shortly. It’s the lens in the front with the red ring and will cost 5 figures, so it’s definitely aimed at the professional market.


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New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: March 30, 2014, 12:14:15 PM »

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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 01:03:16 PM »
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<p>Below is an image showing the new Canon cinema lens with servo that will be announced shortly. It’s the lens in the front with the red ring.</p>
<p>NAB in Las Vegas starts April 5, 2014 and runs until April 10, 2014.</p>
<p>We’re currently not expecting any new announcements for Cinema EOS bodies, beyond the possibility of a development announcement.</p>
<p>More to come….</p>
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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 01:18:40 PM »
I admit it, I'm a buzzkill.

meh.

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<p>Below is an image showing the new Canon cinema lens with servo that will be announced shortly. It’s the lens in the front with the red ring.</p>
<p>NAB in Las Vegas starts April 5, 2014 and runs until April 10, 2014.</p>
<p>We’re currently not expecting any new announcements for Cinema EOS bodies, beyond the possibility of a development announcement.</p>
<p>More to come….</p>
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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 01:35:41 PM »
I hope they release something for non-billionaires

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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 02:58:39 PM »
Is the *optical* quality of a Canon CN-E50mm T1.3 L F better than the IQ of a 50mm 1.2L? If yes, it would be interesting to get compared to the Zeiss Otus 55 f1.4...

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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2014, 03:17:08 PM »
I hope they release something for non-billionaires

These aren't consumer products intended for consumers(or even rich enthusiasts).

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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2014, 03:24:54 PM »
Seems to me a false picture. Cine lens does not have a lens hood itself, since it is assumed that it will use a matte box. If it was really a lens hood for a specific Cine lens, the format would be a longer rectangle to match the format of the Super-35mm sensor.

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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2014, 03:31:14 PM »
That pic may very well be a fake, it's obviously a picture of someone's screen.  But there is a 'Cabrio' type servo cine lens coming to NAB.

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2014, 04:13:10 PM »
This makes sense if Canon is trying to enhance the usability of the C100-300-500 as documentary-style ENG cameras to compete with the new Arri Amira.

For the price of an Amira ($40,000 starting price), users could buy a C300 or 500 and this lens, which is sure to be in the $20,000 range at least. And it would also compete in the rental market.

Smart, if this is true. But it doesn't address the pressing need for a 7DC or 5DC 4K DSLR or Cinema EOS equivalent for under $10K, does it Canon?  :) ;)








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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 05:04:52 PM »
Is the *optical* quality of a Canon CN-E50mm T1.3 L F better than the IQ of a 50mm 1.2L? If yes, it would be interesting to get compared to the Zeiss Otus 55 f1.4...

(http://www.canon.de/For_Home/Product_Finder/Digital_Cinema/Cine_Lenses/CN-E50mm_T1.3_L_F/index.aspx)

Should be the same or virtually identical, different coatings maybe so maybe better contrast, more aperture blades I think, better mechanics.

Smart, if this is true. But it doesn't address the pressing need for a 7DC or 5DC 4K DSLR or Cinema EOS equivalent for under $10K, does it Canon?  :) ;)

What need?

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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2014, 05:16:36 PM »
I hope they release something for non-billionaires

These aren't consumer products intended for consumers(or even rich enthusiasts).

An ENG lens (powered zoom, 24 - 200 (or 300, 400) FF equiv) to pair with C100 at $5000 would make an excellent package for independent doc makers. Cam+lens for $10K ... Is that asking too much?

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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 05:45:11 PM »
Is the *optical* quality of a Canon CN-E50mm T1.3 L F better than the IQ of a 50mm 1.2L? If yes, it would be interesting to get compared to the Zeiss Otus 55 f1.4...

(http://www.canon.de/For_Home/Product_Finder/Digital_Cinema/Cine_Lenses/CN-E50mm_T1.3_L_F/index.aspx)

Should be the same or virtually identical, different coatings maybe so maybe better contrast, more aperture blades I think, better mechanics.

Smart, if this is true. But it doesn't address the pressing need for a 7DC or 5DC 4K DSLR or Cinema EOS equivalent for under $10K, does it Canon?  :) ;)

What need?

You personally not having a need for it does not mean there is not a need for it. The fact that there is so much interest in ML and Black Magic cameras clearly proves the point that there very much IS a need for it.

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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2014, 05:50:36 PM »
What is that camcorder? Is that a C50?
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2014, 06:00:25 PM »
Is the *optical* quality of a Canon CN-E50mm T1.3 L F better than the IQ of a 50mm 1.2L? If yes, it would be interesting to get compared to the Zeiss Otus 55 f1.4...

(http://www.canon.de/For_Home/Product_Finder/Digital_Cinema/Cine_Lenses/CN-E50mm_T1.3_L_F/index.aspx)

Should be the same or virtually identical, different coatings maybe so maybe better contrast, more aperture blades I think, better mechanics.

Smart, if this is true. But it doesn't address the pressing need for a 7DC or 5DC 4K DSLR or Cinema EOS equivalent for under $10K, does it Canon?  :) ;)

What need?

You personally not having a need for it does not mean there is not a need for it. The fact that there is so much interest in ML and Black Magic cameras clearly proves the point that there very much IS a need for it.

There's interest, but relative to the CX00 line.... there aren't sales. The BMCC and ML products are "alternative" products that cater to niche audiences (primarily high end hobbyists) that Canon does not need to cater to because this market is much smaller (with significant competition) than the market (low end tv/indie cinema/high end event and wedding) they are doing exceptionally well in. C300s rent very well and are ubiquitous on reality shows as A cams and dramatic tv as B cams.

Besides, since the Black Magic cameras and 5D hack already cater to this market... there are already products here to choose if you are not interested in what the CX00 line has to offer. Hence what need is there for the same product but Canon-branded (and inevitably much more expensive)? Were Canon to add raw and 4k to its dSLRs it would cannibalize 1DC and C500 sales, which are already workflow nightmares, and force immature workflows onto consumers who are likely not as ready for them as those willing to drop huge price premiums are, compromising the company's reputation for easy-to-use production-ready hardware. Black Magic caters to an enthusiast crowd (similar to Red) that is willing to put up with workflow issues and immature hardware for what they perceive to be significant image quality gains... Canon is interested in the "good enough for your client and really easy to use" market.

When 4k tvs, monitors, and post-production workflows are mainstream Canon dSLRs will shoot 4k. (Maybe a few years after even, Canon dawdles a bit with such tech it seems.)
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Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2014, 08:28:08 PM »
4K is already here, in the form of the GH4 for DSLR type cameras, and the AX100 for camcorders. If products like that are going to "cannibalize 1DC and C500 sales" (not going to happen btw), then by not having competitive products Canon will be surrendering that market share to Panasonic and Canon.

Odd thing is, both Sony and Panasonic have high end professional products as well, why are they not concerned with going to "cannibalize bla and bla sales"? Answer, because it is a different market. There will be no cannibalization going on, only ceding of market share.

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