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Which lens to go with
« on: April 05, 2014, 07:43:53 PM »
I need a suggestion on buying lens. I have 70-200 F4 IS. Someone is selling 70-200 F2.8  IS and my mind is pulling me to buy it. Honestly I am very happy with IQ of my current lens.

Below points are lingering in my mind and not able to make decision.

F4 IS                                    F 2.8 IS (V1)
Both got IS
$900                                    $1100
1.6 lb                                    2.9 lb
F4                                            F 2.8 1 f-stop high
IQ I love it.                               Don’t know…

F4 IS, I already have it with me and I love this lens. But someone is ready to buy it for $900. I get $100 gain in this deal as I bought it for $800.

Not able to decide to go for F2.8 IS or keep F4 IS and use the extra money for Rokinon 14mm F2.8?

I normally shoot, functions, people and nature and I am not earning from my photography  ;)

Any help?
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Which lens to go with
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2014, 08:18:50 PM »
The f/4 IS is sharper than the f/2.8 IS, the latter is bigger and heavier.  If you don't need f/2.8 for indoor sports or subject isolation for portraits, I'd stick with the f/4. 
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2014, 08:21:24 PM »
Hi,

Tough choice...

If your happy with the IQ of the lens you have now then maybe you should get a new lens.

The Pros of the f2.8 version is the huge amount of light that the lens takes in. I shot indoor an event recently and maintained 1600-3200 ISO, while using a 70-200 f2.8L II. Then when I put my 24-105 f4 L, my ISO is at least 3200 - 6400. The bokeh on the 2.8 is also very smooth, which makes a huge difference to some people.

The Cons of f2.8 is the weight. I've only used a 70-200 f4 IS once and recall how light that lens is. I'm planning to travel soon and I'm worried how heaving my gear will be with the 70-200 f2.8L IS II with me.

It a tough choice... I'd stick and save your money and buy the canon 16-35 f2.8 lens  :)

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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2014, 08:35:36 PM »
Unless you need the 2.8 aperture, i would stick with the f4 and the lighter weight.
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2014, 08:40:16 PM »
My perspective is totally different because I'm a newbie with only two lenses. If I already had a 70-200 I would get something else in a different range to broaden my capabilities.
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2014, 08:41:38 PM »
...while using a 70-200 f2.8L II.

I'd take the f/2.8 IS II over the f/4 IS (in fact, I did), but the f/4 IS over the f/2.8 IS (MkI) unless I absolutely needed the extra stop.
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2014, 07:02:48 AM »
For years I have been shooting the 70-200 f2.8 IS Mark I and haven't decided to upgrade to the Mark II, because the old lens is still very good and also very reliable.

For shooting events or people you will obviously notice its f2.8 (as previously mentioned by gshocked), but you will also notice its nice bokeh, which should be better wide open compared even to the newer and sharper Mark II version. This alone is the reason I haven't felt the need to upgrade.

The image quality difference between Mark I and Mark II versions is more noticeable using extenders, so you shouldn't use something like a x2 extender on the 70-200mm f2.8 IS or you lose significant image quality. In the Mark II lens this appears to be less of an issue. Then again if using extenders is not an option you want to explore, feel free to ignore that part.

Image quality differences between the f4 and f2.8 versions should be negligible. I have used both and always preferred the f2.8 version. I tend to shoot wide open all the time with such lenses, so the bokeh and f2.8 make for far more than a small difference.

According to the findings at LensRentals.com there is also a marked difference in robustness between the older f4 and f2.8 versions and the newer lens generation.

Just one week ago I accidentally dropped my 70-200mm on a stone terrace. It fell for about 1m and then it bounced from one end to the other. At first I was in a complete panic. Physically I found some dust on the lens hood, but wiping it off, it looked fine. I then ran the lens through autofocus tests for hours on end without finding anything amiss. I am still completely amazed how that came out, because I ended up with the lens showing neither physical damage on the outside nor any damage I could find through my tests on the inside, but I wouldn't bet a pizza on a Mark II surviving such a drop intact based on the findings published by LensRentals.com.
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2014, 11:42:20 AM »
The f/4 IS is sharper than the f/2.8 IS, the latter is bigger and heavier.  If you don't need f/2.8 for indoor sports or subject isolation for portraits, I'd stick with the f/4.

But stopping down to f4 they are very similar. There's no arguing with the weight difference though

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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2014, 10:05:05 PM »
V2 vs V1 makes the whole point easy IMHO. Get the F4 V2.

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2014, 09:15:44 AM »
...while using a 70-200 f2.8L II.

I'd take the f/2.8 IS II over the f/4 IS (in fact, I did), but the f/4 IS over the f/2.8 IS (MkI) unless I absolutely needed the extra stop.

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The weight of the 2.8 is a killer. Especially on the 2.8v2

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2014, 09:35:28 AM »

The Cons of f2.8 is the weight. I've only used a 70-200 f4 IS once and recall how light that lens is. I'm planning to travel soon and I'm worried how heaving my gear will be with the 70-200 f2.8L IS II with me.

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While the IQ of the 2.8 (I have the v2) is amazing, I have simply missed having a telephoto with me just because its weight made it inconvenient to carry. Which is why I had to get a separate telephoto for traveling.
If you haven't constantly felt the need for more light when using your f/4 then I don't suggest you change.
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2014, 09:46:36 AM »
Please use more conditional. To each his own. 5d3 gripped + 2.8 II IS is fine by me and I' m totally not athletic. Add the x2 converter and yeah I can' t last very long.

The weight issue of the 2.8 is overstated by some. (Don' t see a value judgment please.) Just try it out.

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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2014, 09:56:22 AM »
For $200 you'd be crazy to pass on the 2.8 IS, especially as you list functions and people amongst your interests, I have had one since they came out and have never had any desire to upgrade it. If the f4 tests sharper then it isn't visible in actual real world images at normal sizes.
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2014, 02:17:39 PM »
Regarding lens size and weight there is no substitute to testing this yourself.

I wouldn't consider any of the 70-200mm zooms too heavy for extended use. If for example someone can safely carry a baby, why wouldn't the same person be able to carry a 70-200mm f2.8 Mark II zoom on a gripped 5D?

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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2014, 03:39:05 PM »
Regarding lens size and weight there is no substitute to testing this yourself.

I wouldn't consider any of the 70-200mm zooms too heavy for extended use. If for example someone can safely carry a baby, why wouldn't the same person be able to carry a 70-200mm f2.8 Mark II zoom on a gripped 5D?

I have a pal who is an equestrian photographer and he'd shoot at events, selling the pictures to the competitors, so it is a case of shooting every rider for the duration of the event. ( something that would drive me nuts). He used a 1D + 70-200 2.8 and did eventually suffer from strained hand. The last time but one time I saw him he had it strapped up; the last time he was using a 7D + 70-200/4.

So size and weight can matter, it's a question of the individuals priorities and circumstances.

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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2014, 03:39:05 PM »