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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2014, 04:32:02 PM »
Regarding lens size and weight there is no substitute to testing this yourself.

Totally accurate.

I wouldn't consider any of the 70-200mm zooms too heavy for extended use. If for example someone can safely carry a baby, why wouldn't the same person be able to carry a 70-200mm f2.8 Mark II zoom on a gripped 5D?

This is, unfortunately, missing the point on so many counts.
1. Do you frequently hold up the baby at eye level, rather than resting him on your shoulders/body?
2. When you are also carrying other gear, food, etc., then the additional 1 lbs can be an issue.
3. Sometimes, there simply might not be room in the bag you are carrying, and you might not want to take a bigger bag for so many reasons (real-life experience).
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2014, 04:32:02 PM »

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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2014, 11:55:19 PM »
Regarding lens size and weight there is no substitute to testing this yourself.

I wouldn't consider any of the 70-200mm zooms too heavy for extended use. If for example someone can safely carry a baby, why wouldn't the same person be able to carry a 70-200mm f2.8 Mark II zoom on a gripped 5D?

I have a pal who is an equestrian photographer and he'd shoot at events, selling the pictures to the competitors, so it is a case of shooting every rider for the duration of the event. ( something that would drive me nuts). He used a 1D + 70-200 2.8 and did eventually suffer from strained hand. The last time but one time I saw him he had it strapped up; the last time he was using a 7D + 70-200/4.

So size and weight can matter, it's a question of the individuals priorities and circumstances.


For repeated actions like you described it, I can understand these consequences. For a person not making a living from photography like the original poster, there is little risk of this happening.

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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2014, 09:24:56 AM »
Regarding lens size and weight there is no substitute to testing this yourself.

I wouldn't consider any of the 70-200mm zooms too heavy for extended use. If for example someone can safely carry a baby, why wouldn't the same person be able to carry a 70-200mm f2.8 Mark II zoom on a gripped 5D?

I have a pal who is an equestrian photographer and he'd shoot at events, selling the pictures to the competitors, so it is a case of shooting every rider for the duration of the event. ( something that would drive me nuts). He used a 1D + 70-200 2.8 and did eventually suffer from strained hand. The last time but one time I saw him he had it strapped up; the last time he was using a 7D + 70-200/4.

So size and weight can matter, it's a question of the individuals priorities and circumstances.

Sounds like a monopod would be of benefit.
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2014, 01:36:42 PM »
Sounds like a monopod would be of benefit.

Where these equestrian photographers are shooting cross country events and have to be based at one fence, some of them do use monopods or even tripods. However when shooting show jumping events the photographer inside the ring moves around to get the competitors over more than one fence. The whole round only lasts about 60 seconds. I have never seen a monopod used by anyone under these circumstances.

You can see the sort of thing on his website: www.jumpforit.co.uk

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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2014, 08:04:41 PM »
Mark I is just fine as long as you don't shoot at 200mm 2.8. Very unsharp. And the weight is a big factor. At first I thought that I was a built guy and the weight wouldn't be a problem, but handholding it for a 3h long show made me think otherwise.

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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2014, 08:34:39 PM »
Mark I is just fine as long as you don't shoot at 200mm 2.8. Very unsharp. And the weight is a big factor. At first I thought that I was a built guy and the weight wouldn't be a problem, but handholding it for a 3h long show made me think otherwise.

That is utter rubbish, mine is razor sharp at 200 and f2.8.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=103&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=4&API=0&LensComp=404&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=4&APIComp=0

Might lack a little contrast, but the resolution is there.
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2014, 09:01:47 PM »
I'd stick with the F/4 until you start needing that f/2.8. A stop is alot more light but also alot more weight to lug around for something your not being paid for.

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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2014, 09:06:43 PM »
The 2.8 versions of the 7-200 are in a totally different league than the f4.  Get it.
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2014, 08:25:37 AM »
For shooting people f2.8 version will allow better bokeh/subject isolation
For landscapes if you are travelling f4 will be better since it is smaller/lighter; more portable

If you do not use teleconverters and do not pixel peep the IQ of both lenses are identical. If you are planning to use teleconverters mkII version of f2.8 is a better choice.

For landscapes keeping f4 and buying the 14mm Rokinon seems to be a better choice.
For portraits you may need faster glass (you can also consider a fast 85mm Rokinon)

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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2014, 05:28:23 PM »
since you have the f4 IS consider getting the 135 f2L for when you need extra light its a stop faster again than the f2.8 and has far superior IQ to the mk1 and I feel superior IQ to even the mk2 I got mine second hand for $700 a couple of years old.

Shooting people at functions you want 1/100 shutter speed anyway to keep them reasonably sharp so the F2 of the 135 will be a bigger help. (Unless of course you are dragging the shutter with flash and can control ambient spill light to a certain degree.

If I were in your situation knowing what I know now and owning these lenses that Is what I would do (I have the 70-200 f2.8 MkII) its big and heavy and I don't use it as much now since getting the 135L
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2014, 08:29:15 PM »
I love shooting events and couldn't live without my 70-200 2.8 II.  IMO if you're not shooting portraits and landscapes (for example), you do need that extra speed.  No time to play around.;)
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Re: Which lens to go with
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2014, 08:29:15 PM »