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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2014, 07:39:09 PM »
With all due respect to Surapon, those little on-camera, postcard sized "softboxes" are totally useless.

If I understand, you want a real softbox, affordable and portable.

Consider::http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/621366-REG/Impact_EBO_0602424_Quikbox_24_x_24.html

or smaller, a bit more rugged, but loses some light due to the locking assembly inside:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/925399-REG/westcott_2030_rapid_box_octa_mini.html

Check out some of Neil Van Niekerk's excellent blogs and videos showing how to get amazing results with these types of modifiers or even just bouncing the on-camera flash.

Really, forget about the "softbox" you can mount on-camera.  The Rogue Bender mentioned already would be much, much better.


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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2014, 07:39:09 PM »

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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2014, 09:31:08 PM »
I have the roundflash
http://roundflash.com/

I take the roundflash everywhere I take a speedlight as it can be used off camera as well as on. It does suck power though so it struggles in full sun but even full sun with a 35 to 50mm lens and shooting quite close it works well. But is not powerful enough for full body shots with these lenses in full sun.
WW, compared to an approx 70w/s speedlight, the Godox Witstro AD360 (300w/s) has the guts to really bring the Roundflash to life.
http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_Camera_Flash_Witstro_AD180&AD360_Powerfou&Portable_Flash.html
Also, as you have already got Phottix Odin, you'll get perfect, clean HSS all the way to 1/8000 sec with the Witstro/Odin combination. This is a golden era for flash, there's interesting new stuff coming out every few months (mostly out of China...)

-pw

holey crap I saw one of those the other day I'm gonna go back and check it out in more detail

thanks man!
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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2014, 11:13:07 PM »
I have the roundflash
http://roundflash.com/

I take the roundflash everywhere I take a speedlight as it can be used off camera as well as on. It does suck power though so it struggles in full sun but even full sun with a 35 to 50mm lens and shooting quite close it works well. But is not powerful enough for full body shots with these lenses in full sun.
WW, compared to an approx 70w/s speedlight, the Godox Witstro AD360 (300w/s) has the guts to really bring the Roundflash to life.
http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_Camera_Flash_Witstro_AD180&AD360_Powerfou&Portable_Flash.html
Also, as you have already got Phottix Odin, you'll get perfect, clean HSS all the way to 1/8000 sec with the Witstro/Odin combination. This is a golden era for flash, there's interesting new stuff coming out every few months (mostly out of China...)

holey crap I saw one of those the other day I'm gonna go back and check it out in more detail
thanks man!
There's a fair bit of price variation  on the AD360 in Australia:
http://www.photo-shop-studio.com.au/speedlites/bare-bulb-flash-system/bare-bulb-flash/godox-wistro-bare-bulb-flash-kit-ad360/ I had my test-drive here...
http://totalphoto.com.au/?wpsc-product=godox-witstro-ad360-flash-light-speedlight
http://t-one.co/asia-pacific/shop/wistro/strobe-speed-light-w-series-ad360-high-powered-t-one/
The variation may come from some offers not including a battery. Some offers are with an all-in-one battery/inverter. Get the one where the battery detaches from the inverter (PB960), extra batteries are cheap; $85
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Godox-Propac-PB960-Backup-Power-Pack-Battery-Chamber-for-Replacement-4500mAH-/160961323485?pt=AU_Flashes&hash=item257a0ae1dd

Also necessary:
http://www.photo-shop-studio.com.au/speedlites/bare-bulb-flash-system/cap/godox-wistro-protection-cap/
Also interesting, and at $25 why not:
http://www.photo-shop-studio.com.au/speedlites/bare-bulb-flash-system/dome-diffuser/godox-wistro-wide-angle-dome-diffuser/
And if your shooting style requires a $20 snoot:
http://www.photo-shop-studio.com.au/speedlites/bare-bulb-flash-system/snoot/godox-witstro-snoot-with-grid-for-ad180-ad360-only/
And this attachment lets you use your Bowens modifiers. Awesome!
http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_S_type_Speedlite_Bracket.html
To halve the recycle time, use this splitter to hook into both battery terminals at once:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Godox-DB-02-Cable-Y-adapter-2-to-1-For-PROPAC-Power-Pack-PB960-AD360-AD180-/281142985960?pt=AU_Cameras_Photographic_Accessories&hash=item41756d84e8

Reviews:
http://www.lightingrumours.com/godox-witstro-ad360-flash-review-4526#.U1sdzcew5Gw
http://www.englishphotographer.com/godox-ad360-pb960-battery-flash-review/
http://www.twiching.com/learningcenter/articles/149/

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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2014, 10:29:00 AM »
With all due respect to Surapon, those little on-camera, postcard sized "softboxes" are totally useless.

If I understand, you want a real softbox, affordable and portable.

Consider::http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/621366-REG/Impact_EBO_0602424_Quikbox_24_x_24.html

or smaller, a bit more rugged, but loses some light due to the locking assembly inside:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/925399-REG/westcott_2030_rapid_box_octa_mini.html

Check out some of Neil Van Niekerk's excellent blogs and videos showing how to get amazing results with these types of modifiers or even just bouncing the on-camera flash.

Really, forget about the "softbox" you can mount on-camera.  The Rogue Bender mentioned already would be much, much better.

Thanks Dear Friend YuengLinger.
Thanks for your Good Comments, That Tiny Softbox are great ( In my Idea) , depend on the location of the Lights. In my case, I mounted on the Poles and let some one hold on  at  the side of me ( Main Photographer), and Another Light at let/ right   sides  of the Back of the subject (at high Level) as the Rim light/ Hair Light. If I have no one to help, I just mounted on my DIY Bracket as the Photos below = Work for me 100%  in every times.
Have  a great weekend, My friend.
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http://kimcrenshawphotography.com/

http://graslon.com/shop/graslon-prodigy-dome-flash-diffuser/
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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2014, 03:00:55 PM »
Beautiful shots, Surapon!

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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2014, 03:20:26 PM »
Beautiful shots, Surapon!

Thank you, Sir, Dear Friend fugu82.
Yes, Sir, Filled Flash with Flash modifier are the MUST of out door / Sun shine Photos, Special the sun at the back of Subject , with Flash = Perfected Exposure of the Subject's Face Plus Natural Rim Light/ Hair Light too.
Have a great weekend.
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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2014, 03:15:21 AM »
Beautiful shots, Surapon!

+1
Love the one with the little girl on the bridge Surapon!  the back light portraits are great too!  can be tricky to get right. 

I have the lastolite ezybox 24" thanks to suggestions by neuro, RC, and some others.  So I can personally recommend it now.  It's fairly portable and offers great lighting for single and double portraits.  And i wanted something of good quality.  Not the cheapest though. 
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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2014, 10:38:13 AM »
Beautiful shots, Surapon!

+1
Love the one with the little girl on the bridge Surapon!  the back light portraits are great too!  can be tricky to get right. 

I have the lastolite ezybox 24" thanks to suggestions by neuro, RC, and some others.  So I can personally recommend it now.  It's fairly portable and offers great lighting for single and double portraits.  And i wanted something of good quality.  Not the cheapest though.

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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2014, 11:48:08 AM »
I have the roundflash
http://roundflash.com/

I take the roundflash everywhere I take a speedlight as it can be used off camera as well as on. It does suck power though so it struggles in full sun but even full sun with a 35 to 50mm lens and shooting quite close it works well. But is not powerful enough for full body shots with these lenses in full sun.
WW, compared to an approx 70w/s speedlight, the Godox Witstro AD360 (300w/s) has the guts to really bring the Roundflash to life.
http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_Camera_Flash_Witstro_AD180&AD360_Powerfou&Portable_Flash.html
Also, as you have already got Phottix Odin, you'll get perfect, clean HSS all the way to 1/8000 sec with the Witstro/Odin combination. This is a golden era for flash, there's interesting new stuff coming out every few months (mostly out of China...)

holey crap I saw one of those the other day I'm gonna go back and check it out in more detail
thanks man!
There's a fair bit of price variation  on the AD360 in Australia:
http://www.photo-shop-studio.com.au/speedlites/bare-bulb-flash-system/bare-bulb-flash/godox-wistro-bare-bulb-flash-kit-ad360/ I had my test-drive here...
http://totalphoto.com.au/?wpsc-product=godox-witstro-ad360-flash-light-speedlight
http://t-one.co/asia-pacific/shop/wistro/strobe-speed-light-w-series-ad360-high-powered-t-one/
The variation may come from some offers not including a battery. Some offers are with an all-in-one battery/inverter. Get the one where the battery detaches from the inverter (PB960), extra batteries are cheap; $85
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Godox-Propac-PB960-Backup-Power-Pack-Battery-Chamber-for-Replacement-4500mAH-/160961323485?pt=AU_Flashes&hash=item257a0ae1dd

Also necessary:
http://www.photo-shop-studio.com.au/speedlites/bare-bulb-flash-system/cap/godox-wistro-protection-cap/
Also interesting, and at $25 why not:
http://www.photo-shop-studio.com.au/speedlites/bare-bulb-flash-system/dome-diffuser/godox-wistro-wide-angle-dome-diffuser/
And if your shooting style requires a $20 snoot:
http://www.photo-shop-studio.com.au/speedlites/bare-bulb-flash-system/snoot/godox-witstro-snoot-with-grid-for-ad180-ad360-only/
And this attachment lets you use your Bowens modifiers. Awesome!
http://www.godox.com/EN/Products_S_type_Speedlite_Bracket.html
To halve the recycle time, use this splitter to hook into both battery terminals at once:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Godox-DB-02-Cable-Y-adapter-2-to-1-For-PROPAC-Power-Pack-PB960-AD360-AD180-/281142985960?pt=AU_Cameras_Photographic_Accessories&hash=item41756d84e8

Reviews:
http://www.lightingrumours.com/godox-witstro-ad360-flash-review-4526#.U1sdzcew5Gw
http://www.englishphotographer.com/godox-ad360-pb960-battery-flash-review/
http://www.twiching.com/learningcenter/articles/149/

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thanks I picked one up today it just fits the roundflash! works pretty well cant wait to test it out with the new sigma 50mm ;)
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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2014, 09:21:37 PM »
thanks I picked one up today it just fits the roundflash! works pretty well cant wait to test it out with the new sigma 50mm ;)
Hey that's great. You'll love the Godox Witstro AD360.
Phew! Glad it fits your roundflash.
Where did you source the Witstro from?

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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2014, 09:43:44 PM »
thanks I picked one up today it just fits the roundflash! works pretty well cant wait to test it out with the new sigma 50mm ;)
Hey that's great. You'll love the Godox Witstro AD360.
Phew! Glad it fits your roundflash.
Where did you source the Witstro from?

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bought it here at xing guang here in shanghai, they have a godox store so i could try it all out got a few of the other goodies for it extra battery etc and damn with the double power adapter recycle is unbelievable it will easily keep up with a 5Dmk3 at full FPS possible even do quite well on a 1DX
its even got an adapter so you can charge iphones ipads etc off  the battery pack if you need some juice, how cool is that?
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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2014, 04:37:25 PM »
I recently got a large rouge flashbender with a diffusion panel.  It's very portable and works well.

Good luck!

I got the "blanc" version a la eBay, but I'm having trouble using it for fills and catchlights. Did you use it for these purposes? How'd yours hold up?
I am wondering if the reflector in mine isn't up to the mark. The build is pretty good otherwise.
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Re: Cheap decent softbox for a traveller
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