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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2011, 07:15:03 AM »
there was posibility to get an invitation to tommorows event, but no more

http://www.eventcredentials.com/canon/orginvite.aspx
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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2011, 08:07:33 AM »
there was posibility to get an invitation to tommorows event, but no more

http://www.eventcredentials.com/canon/orginvite.aspx


We are so close to the announcement and yet we've hardly heard any convincing leaks..
Canon is getting better at this yeh?

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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2011, 08:27:14 AM »
Heh... if that 300C rumor holds up, then I hope they set their price right. Those speccs I already have covered in my Sony FS100, and it shoots better in the dark than the 5D II does.

Im not holding my breath so far...
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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2011, 08:43:24 AM »
If this rumor is true... What a joke ! An "historical announcement :the story begins" for a 1080P Video camcorder ?

I think they have something else to show, isn't Martin Scorsese going to the announcement event ?

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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 09:11:07 AM »
i think it's going to be a paper weight that can show hd video shot on a Canon EOS camera  8)

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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 09:22:05 AM »
Heh... if that 300C rumor holds up, then I hope they set their price right. Those speccs I already have covered in my Sony FS100, and it shoots better in the dark than the 5D II does.

Im not holding my breath so far...

Yes, but the 300C could use EF lenses, whereas your Sony FS100 can't...well, at least, until Birger starts shipping their adapter.   ::)
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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 10:02:09 AM »
there was posibility to get an invitation to tommorows event, but no more

http://www.eventcredentials.com/canon/orginvite.aspx

interesting...why does this reference Nov 4th & 5th vs the 3rd?  Are there going to be more announcements the 4th and 5th?

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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2011, 10:09:03 AM »
I'm betting the 300c post is a last minute play for page views by the cr guy.  No way its only gonna be 1080p at that price and with red releasing a cam the same day.
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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #23 on: November 03, 2011, 10:18:24 AM »
posts this soon are just for page views no more speculation needed only a matter of hours now...

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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2011, 10:20:14 AM »
those 300c specs don't tell me much: with all that, it could be just as good as the alexa (and thus worth $60K), or only as good as the FS100 (and thus worth $5K)

at this level, for most work it's not so much about resolution (whatever RED people say), but about dynamic range, color rendition (specially skin tones), etc

for example, the alexa only records 1080p, but it has 14.1 stops of DR (vs. 11.2 for the 5D2, pre-cinestyle, and 14.5 for film), and the best skin tones among all these cameras according to a lot of very knowledgeable people
http://nofilmschool.com/2011/06/zacuto-unleashes-great-camera-shootout-2011/
and that's why it's worth $60K (to some)

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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2011, 10:24:04 AM »
I'm betting the 300c post is a last minute play for page views by the cr guy.  No way its only gonna be 1080p at that price and with red releasing a cam the same day.

At what price? Also have you looked at the specifications and pricing of Canon's XF305? Granted that camcorder includes a lens, reportedly a very good lens, but this camcorder has a much larger sensor. 4K may be the preferrred capture and postproduction resolution for feature films shown on giant screens but, for HDTV, it may be overkill. Also, 4K capture, especially raw capture, requires fast and expensive memory. If Canon has decided to again use inexpensive CF memory, then 1920X1080 makes sense.

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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2011, 10:45:57 AM »
I'm betting the 300c post is a last minute play for page views by the cr guy.  No way its only gonna be 1080p at that price and with red releasing a cam the same day.

At what price? Also have you looked at the specifications and pricing of Canon's XF305? Granted that camcorder includes a lens, reportedly a very good lens, but this camcorder has a much larger sensor. 4K may be the preferrred capture and postproduction resolution for feature films shown on giant screens but, for HDTV, it may be overkill. Also, 4K capture, especially raw capture, requires fast and expensive memory. If Canon has decided to again use inexpensive CF memory, then 1920X1080 makes sense.

Everywhere I've seen has said $10k-$15k.  The Scarlett or whatever Red announces today shoots higher than 1080 for sure and they were talking about $7k - $10k for that.  Not to mention they are releasing it in Hollywood and having some of the big shots there, so I'm pretty sure this camera is "for feature films on giant screens."   You think those people are going to be impressed by a camera like the one described in the last rumor?

Point and shoots and iPhones shoot 1080p, it just seems like any pro cam at that price that has to stay relevant for a while is going to need to do something better.

I dont care if it's 1080p if they make some HUGE improvements somehow in terms of quality.
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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2011, 10:59:16 AM »
I dont care if it's 1080p if they make some HUGE improvements somehow in terms of quality.

Yes.  Actually not that many films are finished in 4k...  Most are still 2k.  Lots of major films (Captain America, Avengers, Transformers 3, etc.) shot at 1080p or 2k.

The vast majority of new TV shows (maybe an exaggeration) are shot on the Alexa in prores, because the format is easy to ingest.  How many still photographers distribute their images as raw files?  Prores log-c plus custom LUT provides the built in "look" the cinematographer wants, but also with substantial room to grade.

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Re: November 3, 2011 Announcement
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2011, 11:26:24 AM »
I'm betting the 300c post is a last minute play for page views by the cr guy.  No way its only gonna be 1080p at that price and with red releasing a cam the same day.

CR Craig I don't believe is the type to play games for page views.

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