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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2014, 03:59:04 PM »
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...but I still have no regrets on the cancellation.  $950 is still $950 and I have the 24-70 II for the subjects I shoot where corner sharpness is necessary (landscapes, buildings) and I'd be stopping down to at least f/11 for them anyways.

Makes sense... I'm sweating my pre-order of the 50A too. But I don't have a 50L to fall-back on (just a Canon 1.4 that I can't stomach using wider that 2.0) so I'm going to stay-the-course with my Sigma pre-order...
I think I'd keep the pre-order, too.  The 50 1.4 is a sweet lens, but I found that it had very little contrast until f/2 as well.  The build quality of the Sigma looks like it will be a really nice upgrade, though I think the size change will be a bit shocking for you.

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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2014, 04:03:50 PM »
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...I think the size change will be a bit shocking for you.

I'm sure that you're right! I guess I'll have to exercise my arm as well as my wallet...

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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2014, 05:12:14 PM »
Ignore all this... I'm talking to myself to see if I want to bother...

So the 100L is my favorite lens at the moment... If the 50 art's performance is on par with the 50L... then I'm looking at this difference in quality. 

Obviously the amount of light coming through is different, but that doesn't make a difference in a studio setup because I control the light...

So the center performance of the 50L at 1.4 is blown away by the 100L at f/2.8... no surprise there... and I do find that f/2.8 can be limited... and I'd like to go with a bigger aperture... so do the amount of times I find f/2.8 not acceptable worth the $950?

Or maybe I'll just nut up and get the 85L mkii.  Damn it.
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2014, 05:32:36 PM »
Ignore all this... I'm talking to myself to see if I want to bother...

So the 100L is my favorite lens at the moment... If the 50 art's performance is on par with the 50L... then I'm looking at this difference in quality. 

Obviously the amount of light coming through is different, but that doesn't make a difference in a studio setup because I control the light...

So the center performance of the 50L at 1.4 is blown away by the 100L at f/2.8... no surprise there... and I do find that f/2.8 can be limited... and I'd like to go with a bigger aperture... so do the amount of times I find f/2.8 not acceptable worth the $950?

Or maybe I'll just nut up and get the 85L mkii.  Damn it.

"nut up and get the 85L mkii" and be done with :P It will blow your 100L out of water.

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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2014, 06:03:42 PM »
+1 for the 85 L, it makes a snapshot of your trashcan look like a pro commercial shot ;D
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2014, 06:19:18 PM »
I love all these new options coming to market! It seems if you already have a 50L no big deal, keep it. Question is, will anyone still buy the 50L for an extra $600 over the 50A? Is the bokeh $600 better if you don't already have the 50L? Not so sure.
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2014, 06:42:42 PM »
I love all these new options coming to market! It seems if you already have a 50L no big deal, keep it. Question is, will anyone still buy the 50L for an extra $600 over the 50A? Is the bokeh $600 better if you don't already have the 50L? Not so sure.
50A is now on my list (along with a bunch of other lenses). Starting my letter to Santa now!

We will see loads of used 50 L's in the following months, here it's now only 200 usd more than the new 50 Art.
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2014, 07:39:57 PM »
I love all these new options coming to market! It seems if you already have a 50L no big deal, keep it. Question is, will anyone still buy the 50L for an extra $600 over the 50A? Is the bokeh $600 better if you don't already have the 50L? Not so sure.
50A is now on my list (along with a bunch of other lenses). Starting my letter to Santa now!

To be honest, if I don't have 50L yet, this new Sigma is very tempting. I can't believe I just said that :-X
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2014, 07:44:19 PM »
+1 for the 85 L, it makes a snapshot of your trashcan look like a pro commercial shot ;D

I know Canon has another lens that can make this trash can looks even BETTER.... take a guess ;D

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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2014, 07:57:10 PM »
Here's what I've been waiting for - a 50L to 50A comparison from SLR Lounge

I think it's enough to convince me to cancel my pre-order.  The Sigma is sharper, but not shockingly so, and the Canon's bokeh is slightly better (IMHO).  The Canon also appears to have ever-so-slightly better contrast, while the Sigma has better CA control, but again, only by a hair.

The other thing I've learned is that you'll have buy the USB dock to enable full time manual focus (which I guess isn't standard for Sigmas).  That's crappy. 

The 50L has killer build quality and USM in a much smaller package and I don't think the Sigma is worth 950 of my dollars for such subtle differences at f/1.4 in what for me, is a portrait lens. 

I guess I can't cancel it till the 24th, so I'll keep my mind open until then, but I think I'm going to cancel and resume the 50L II vigil ;)

Here's a more scientific comparison of sharpness. Seems the Sigma vs Canon L decision is really sharpness vs. bokeh, respectfully. If I had a 50L I probably wouldn't sell, but since I don't, I'm still super excited about my preorder :)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=941&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=403&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2014, 09:00:21 PM »
If I had a 50L I probably wouldn't sell, but since I don't, I'm still super excited about my preorder :)

That's where I'm at too.  Especially since any upcoming 50L MkII is going to be priced sky high. 
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2014, 09:49:30 PM »
+1 for the 85 L, it makes a snapshot of your trashcan look like a pro commercial shot ;D

I know Canon has another lens that can make this trash can looks even BETTER.... take a guess ;D

Thanks Viggo ;)
Say 200mm f/2 IS and you're done!

Here's a more scientific comparison of sharpness. Seems the Sigma vs Canon L decision is really sharpness vs. bokeh, respectfully. If I had a 50L I probably wouldn't sell, but since I don't, I'm still super excited about my preorder :)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=941&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=403&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1
Cool to see this, but still still won't change my 50L love 8)  I'll stay off in la la land and pretend a sharper 50mm (or two) don't exist :o

In all seriousness, the 50L a great lens for my uses (portraits and walkaround, but I'm sure the new Sigma will be quite a lens.

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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2014, 11:23:15 PM »
Here's what I've been waiting for - a 50L to 50A comparison from SLR Lounge

I think it's enough to convince me to cancel my pre-order.  The Sigma is sharper, but not shockingly so, and the Canon's bokeh is slightly better (IMHO).  The Canon also appears to have ever-so-slightly better contrast, while the Sigma has better CA control, but again, only by a hair.

The other thing I've learned is that you'll have buy the USB dock to enable full time manual focus (which I guess isn't standard for Sigmas).  That's crappy. 

The 50L has killer build quality and USM in a much smaller package and I don't think the Sigma is worth 950 of my dollars for such subtle differences at f/1.4 in what for me, is a portrait lens. 

I guess I can't cancel it till the 24th, so I'll keep my mind open until then, but I think I'm going to cancel and resume the 50L II vigil ;)

Here's a more scientific comparison of sharpness. Seems the Sigma vs Canon L decision is really sharpness vs. bokeh, respectfully. If I had a 50L I probably wouldn't sell, but since I don't, I'm still super excited about my preorder :)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=941&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=403&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

I think the slr lounge images really do not show what the difference between these two lenses is really like, they have low contrast and are far too smooth subjects. The images from the digital picture are much more staggering.

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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2014, 11:23:15 PM »

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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2014, 11:29:27 PM »
Here's what I've been waiting for - a 50L to 50A comparison from SLR Lounge

I think it's enough to convince me to cancel my pre-order.  The Sigma is sharper, but not shockingly so, and the Canon's bokeh is slightly better (IMHO).  The Canon also appears to have ever-so-slightly better contrast, while the Sigma has better CA control, but again, only by a hair.

The other thing I've learned is that you'll have buy the USB dock to enable full time manual focus (which I guess isn't standard for Sigmas).  That's crappy. 

The 50L has killer build quality and USM in a much smaller package and I don't think the Sigma is worth 950 of my dollars for such subtle differences at f/1.4 in what for me, is a portrait lens. 

I guess I can't cancel it till the 24th, so I'll keep my mind open until then, but I think I'm going to cancel and resume the 50L II vigil ;)

Here's a more scientific comparison of sharpness. Seems the Sigma vs Canon L decision is really sharpness vs. bokeh, respectfully. If I had a 50L I probably wouldn't sell, but since I don't, I'm still super excited about my preorder :)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=941&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=403&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

Wow. Just wow. What a lens. I can't imagine that anyone other than brand loyalists will opt for the 50L after seeing this comparison. I have and love the 35A, and while I do want to upgrade my 50/1.4, I think I'll wait and see what Canon's new IS version is like. I'd like to have some primes that are more travel-friendly and inconspicuous. Although when Sigma releases the 85A, all bets are off...

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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2014, 02:59:22 AM »
+1 for the 85 L, it makes a snapshot of your trashcan look like a pro commercial shot ;D

I know Canon has another lens that can make this trash can looks even BETTER.... take a guess ;D

Thanks Viggo ;)
Say 200mm f/2 IS and you're done!

Here's a more scientific comparison of sharpness. Seems the Sigma vs Canon L decision is really sharpness vs. bokeh, respectfully. If I had a 50L I probably wouldn't sell, but since I don't, I'm still super excited about my preorder :)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=941&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=403&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1
Cool to see this, but still still won't change my 50L love 8)  I'll stay off in la la land and pretend a sharper 50mm (or two) don't exist :o

In all seriousness, the 50L a great lens for my uses (portraits and walkaround, but I'm sure the new Sigma will be quite a lens.

Lol! That was (not surprisingly) going to be my next guess. I'll have to wait and see more from the 50 art, but I downloaded the Zip and checked out the raw's. It seems the 50 L is brighter at same exif, which I like, and the samples are not in very controlled setting, the light has changed and it's much harder to tell, but I thought it would be MUCH better. Maybe he has a dud?
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Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2014, 02:59:22 AM »