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Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« on: April 17, 2014, 01:08:25 PM »
Many people are singularly focused on lens sharpness (I'm guilty, too), so I thought I'd check out DxO's sharpest lenses for each focal length / zoom range and share the list.  These are the P-MPix scores using the 5DIII and are should be just about every production model that they've measured, but I may have missed or accidentally included a few.  The duplicates are where there is a tie. 

By Focal Length

Primes   
Canon EF 600mm F/4L IS II USM   20
Canon EF 500mm F/4L IS II USM   19
Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS II USM    21
Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM   22
Canon EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM   17
Canon EF 180mm f/3.5L Macro USM   14
Sigma 150mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM APO   17
Carl Zeiss Apo Sonnar T* 2/135 ZE    22
Sigma 105mm F2.8 EX DG Macro    18
Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar T 100mm f/2 ZE    20
Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 Di MACRO   16
Sigma 85mm F1.4 EX DG HSM Canon   20
Sigma 70mm F2.8 EX DG Macro    17
Carl Zeiss Distagon T* Otus 1.4/55    21
Sigma 50mm F1.4 DG HSM A Canon   21
Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 STM   18
Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS USM   20
Carl Zeiss Distagon T 28mm f/2 ZE    18
Carl Zeiss Distagon T 25mm f/2 ZE    17
Canon EF 24mm f/2.8 IS USM   19
Canon EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM   19
Carl Zeiss Distagon T 21mm f/2.8 ZE   15
Canon EF 20mm f/2.8 USM   14
Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/15 ZE    16
Canon EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM   15
   
Zooms   
Tamron SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD   14
Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Extender 1.4x ON   14
Sigma 50-500mm F4.5-6.3 APO DG OS HSM Canon   14
Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Extender 1.4x   19
Sigma 120-400mm F4.5-5.6 DG APO OS HSM Canon   13
Sigma 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM S   20
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM   13
Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM   15
Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS USM   13
Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM   12
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM    21
Sigma 24-105mm F4 DG OS HSM A    18
Tamron SP AF 28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di LD   17
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM   18
Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM   14
Tokina AT-X 16-28 F2.8 PRO FX    17
Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM II Canon   12

By Sharpness

Primes   
Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM   22
Carl Zeiss Apo Sonnar T* 2/135 ZE    22
Canon EF 400mm f/2.8L IS II USM    21
Carl Zeiss Distagon T* Otus 1.4/55    21
Sigma 50mm F1.4 DG HSM A Canon   21
Canon EF 600mm F/4L IS II USM   20
Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar T 100mm f/2 ZE    20
Sigma 85mm F1.4 EX DG HSM Canon   20
Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS USM   20
Canon EF 500mm F/4L IS II USM   19
Canon EF 24mm f/2.8 IS USM   19
Canon EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM   19
Sigma 105mm F2.8 EX DG Macro    18
Canon EF 40mm f/2.8 STM   18
Carl Zeiss Distagon T 28mm f/2 ZE    18
Canon EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM   17
Sigma 150mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM APO   17
Sigma 70mm F2.8 EX DG Macro    17
Carl Zeiss Distagon T 25mm f/2 ZE    17
Tamron SP AF 90mm F/2.8 Di MACRO   16
Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/15 ZE    16
Carl Zeiss Distagon T 21mm f/2.8 ZE   15
Canon EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM   15
Canon EF 180mm f/3.5L Macro USM   14
Canon EF 20mm f/2.8 USM   14
   
Zooms   
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM    21
Sigma 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM S   20
Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Extender 1.4x   19
Sigma 24-105mm F4 DG OS HSM A    18
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II USM   18
Tamron SP AF 28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di LD   17
Tokina AT-X 16-28 F2.8 PRO FX    17
Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM   15
Tamron SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD   14
Canon EF 200-400mm f/4L IS USM Extender 1.4x ON   14
Sigma 50-500mm F4.5-6.3 APO DG OS HSM Canon   14
Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II USM   14
Sigma 120-400mm F4.5-5.6 DG APO OS HSM Canon   13
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM   13
Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS USM   13
Canon EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM   12
Sigma 12-24mm F4.5-5.6 EX DG HSM II Canon   12
« Last Edit: April 17, 2014, 01:10:00 PM by mackguyver »
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Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« on: April 17, 2014, 01:08:25 PM »

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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 02:36:57 PM »
In your opinion, is this accurate?

I'm curious because they rank the 190 dollar 40mm well over the 2200 14mm f/2.8 (Canadian prices).

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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 03:10:41 PM »
Generally speaking, the wider the lens, the harder, and thus more expensive, it is to make it sharp.    Also, sharpness is just one factor of lens design or "personality" as Canon calls in for the cinema lenses:

EOS 1D X, 5DIII, M + EF 24 f/1.4II, 50 f/1.2, 85 f/1.2II, 300 f/2.8 IS II || 16-35 f/4 IS, 24-70 f/2.8II, 70-200 f/2.8II || TS-E 17 f/4, 24 f/3.5II || M 22 f/2, 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 IS || 1.4x III, 2x III

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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 06:37:04 PM »
In your opinion, is this accurate?

I'm curious because they rank the 190 dollar 40mm well over the 2200 14mm f/2.8 (Canadian prices).

It is easier to make a long lens sharp than a short lens.
It is easier to make a narrow lens sharp than a wide lens.
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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2014, 12:53:23 AM »
I'm surprised the 135/2L is not on the list.
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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2014, 04:05:38 AM »
I have followed DXO from the early days, they started off quite hit and miss but over the years have found them to be fairly accurate.

I own the 24 IS and 35 IS primes which are on there and both deservedly so, the 35 can cut a piece of paper at 50 feet . There again the 40mm 2.8 canon is on there too which i find hard to justify as i owned that and sent it back - could have been a dud but was not impressed.

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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2014, 04:39:06 AM »
Could you post the marketing date of the lens?
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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2014, 10:07:44 AM »
I'm surprised the 135/2L is not on the list.

I think it was #2 at that focal length, but that Zeiss costs over $2,000!

I have followed DXO from the early days, they started off quite hit and miss but over the years have found them to be fairly accurate.

I own the 24 IS and 35 IS primes which are on there and both deservedly so, the 35 can cut a piece of paper at 50 feet . There again the 40mm 2.8 canon is on there too which i find hard to justify as i owned that and sent it back - could have been a dud but was not impressed.

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I keep hearing great things about the 24 and 35 IS lenses, so it's not a surprise.  Also, the 40mm has no competition, but it is a sharp lens.  I sold mine after using it for about 5 minutes. I have too much overlap with my other lenses.

Could you post the marketing date of the lens?

That would be a lot of work (this was just a simple copy & paste), but if someone else wants to do it, go right ahead :)
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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2014, 12:08:28 PM »
First, the ratings only apply to a specific camera body.  Certainly not across brands.
 
People tend to look at the numbers but misunderstand what they mean.  They are forever comparing ratings from one brand to another, a 12mp camera rating to a 32mp rating.  The DXO ratings cannot be used that way.
 
Sharpness (Acuity) is far from the only quality of a lens, in fact, most lens reviewers measure contrast (MTF).   DXO's score, unfortunately does not tell us a lot about a lens, and it is not a measure of sharpness.  Certainly acuity and MTF are factored into their score, but it is incorrect to use the DXO overall number and say that represents sharpness.
 
What factors in to their rating?   - They say:
 
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The DxOMark Score considers the overall performance of a lens plus its performance when used with a specific camera body.
   
Do they measure coma
What about Autofocus accuracy or speed
What about IS
 
 
 
Their is a lot of improvement that needs to be done in their ratings, several times they have been called out for totally wrong ratings, and after defending them, they silently updated them to correct them.
 
I would not put much if any value in their ratings, since they seem to be unreliable, and use undisclosed weightings that often do not seem to match the real world values that other reviewers take into account.

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Re: Sharpest EF Lenses (according to DxO)
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