August 30, 2014, 04:45:02 PM

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Value... lens...

135L for $635ish
5 (41.7%)
85L for $1440ish
7 (58.3%)

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I had a completely different set of paragraphs... and I sounded like a prick... So let's not go down that path. 

Let's go hypothetical... if you have the chance to buy either of the two lenses in used-like new condition, which would you choose.  Your main focus is portraiture and you don't want to use that money to buy other things.

Discuss.
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2014, 11:03:06 PM »
85L II.
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2014, 11:04:37 PM »
135L for 635-ish, if your State doesn't have sales tax. Refurbished 135L goes for $ 696 and 85L II for $ 1407, with 20% discounts (which you will surely get :) )
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2014, 11:05:20 PM »
85L II.

Thanks.  $635 seems so much cheaper than $1440... and I do realize because it is...
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2014, 11:11:15 PM »
Both are great for portraits, the 85mm focal length is more versatile, IMO.  135mm is good for individual headshots.  Your signature indicates you have the 70-200 II, f/2 is close, f/1.2 isn't so close.
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2014, 11:24:24 PM »
Both are great for portraits, the 85mm focal length is more versatile, IMO.  135mm is good for individual headshots.  Your signature indicates you have the 70-200 II, f/2 is close, f/1.2 isn't so close.

That's a good point about f/2 v. f/2.8.  I did want a really good low light prime and I was going to settle for the sigma 50 art which we all know is f/1.4... but I was getting a case of cold feet. 
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2014, 11:27:48 PM »
Get the 85L II.

That said, assuming you love shallow DOF photography and buy the 135L now, you will certainly get the 85L II in the not too distant future. 
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2014, 11:44:37 PM »
Both are great for portraits, the 85mm focal length is more versatile, IMO.  135mm is good for individual headshots.  Your signature indicates you have the 70-200 II, f/2 is close, f/1.2 isn't so close.

While I agree the 85mm FL is more versatile, would you say the 85L as a lens is more versatile than the 135L?
On the other hand, the OP does say the main focus is portraiture- so the 85L is a better lens on an FF camera (from the perspective point of view, pun unintended, in strictly my opinion).
JD, my suggestion to buy the 135L is purely based on the assumption you will get the 85L later. I was merely responding to your original post before you changed it, where you wanted to know which was a better deal.


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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2014, 11:48:15 PM »
Both are great for portraits, the 85mm focal length is more versatile, IMO.  135mm is good for individual headshots.  Your signature indicates you have the 70-200 II, f/2 is close, f/1.2 isn't so close.

While I agree the 85mm FL is more versatile, would you say the 85L as a lens is more versatile than the 135L?
On the other hand, the OP does say the main focus is portraiture- so the 85L is a better lens on an FF camera (from the perspective point of view, pun unintended, in strictly my opinion).
JD, my suggestion to buy the 135L is purely based on the assumption you will get the 85L later. I was merely responding to your original post before you changed it, where you wanted to know which was a better deal.

I understood what you were saying.  And when I give advice... it is with the presumption that if someone is getting a cheaper of the two options... that opens up money for more gear... not for car payments, mortgages, and tuition...

And part of the reason I was asking is because I did have the 135L at $635 and change and now buying the 85L mkii at $1440, it doesn't seem like as much of a bargain... and that is what I have having a tough time wrapping my head around. 
Upgrade  path.->means the former was sold for the latter.

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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2014, 11:56:00 PM »
And part of the reason I was asking is because I did have the 135L at $635 and change and now buying the 85L mkii at $1440, it doesn't seem like as much of a bargain... and that is what I have having a tough time wrapping my head around.

Makes sense. In that case, I noticed that while Canon sells refurbs at $ 1400-ish, people sell used lenses for nothing less than $ 1600. So that makes $ 1440 sound like a good deal- but only if you aren't able to take advantage of Canon's deals.
For that matter even used 135L's sell for not less than $ 900 nowadays...
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2014, 12:53:11 AM »
Both are great for portraits, the 85mm focal length is more versatile, IMO.  135mm is good for individual headshots.  Your signature indicates you have the 70-200 II, f/2 is close, f/1.2 isn't so close.

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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2014, 02:00:55 AM »
Alternative: Sigma 85 f1.4, use the savings to take your significant other out for a night on the town, pocket the rest.  Enjoy your bokehs and extra dollars

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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2014, 09:49:02 AM »
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2017? That's a long time. But like what Steve said, the Sigma is a good option.
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2014, 09:59:10 AM »
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2017? That's a long time. But like what Steve said, the Sigma is a good option.
By 2017 the lenses will not be available  ;D

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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2014, 10:44:23 AM »
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2017? That's a long time. But like what Steve said, the Sigma is a good option.
By 2017 the lenses will not be available  ;D

And by then, Sigma would have an 85mm ART lens.  ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°
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Re: What's a better value? 135L for $635ish or 85L mkii for $1440
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