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canon is not for poor film makers anymore! 47,000$??!!!
« on: November 04, 2011, 02:50:34 PM »
CN-E14.5-60mm T2.6 L S (EF mount) lens for 45,000 to 47,000$ each?
what did happened to you, canon?, I waited for an year to see better cam than 5d, in an affordable range!
but finally what we have is FULL HD cam for estimated 20,000$ price range!!

I laugh at myself for being poor.

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« on: November 04, 2011, 02:50:34 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 03:26:37 PM »
There still are 1% of the people with lots of money that can afford something like this.  ;)

It is probably more of a commercial camera market thing rather than a individual consumer camera.  They saw that there is a real market for small HD cameras with true depth of field.  If they can sell some of these instead of the basic 5DM2, they will.
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 03:37:23 PM »
There's nothing stopping you from still using a cheap DSLR with video and EF mount still photography lenses.  The results will be as good (or bad) for the money as before.  If anything, the cost to jump onboard with the 5D is less than before, which is good.

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 04:05:37 PM »
Well, keep in mind that those lenses, all of them, are on the inexpensive side of the spectrum. Less then a third of the price of our current cine lenses of similar FL/aperture.
As for being on a budget - the camera is overrated, if I have the choice between a well executed shot in SD and HD footage that only shows every flaw, shortcut or compromise the clearer the choice is obvious.

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2011, 04:11:37 PM »
Once you’ve blown your budget on the EOS C300, there is nothing stopping you from mounting the EF 50mm f 1.8 on it... ;)
Seriously, the entire EF lens lineup could be utilized, special effects such as with the EF 8-15mm f/4L Fisheye USM
or the F 800mm f/5.6L IS USM extend the possibilities...

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2011, 05:14:25 PM »
Doesen't matter the cost of the camera. Its such a small portion of the filmakers budget anyway.

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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 05:48:58 PM »
Once you’ve blown your budget on the EOS C300, there is nothing stopping you from mounting the EF 50mm f 1.8 on it... ;)
Seriously, the entire EF lens lineup could be utilized, special effects such as with the EF 8-15mm f/4L Fisheye USM
or the F 800mm f/5.6L IS USM extend the possibilities...

Except that you'll have to focus it manually. Quite honestly, the Canon XF100/105/300/305 camcorders are looking better and better, unless you need to make movies in very little light or want to have minimum DOF.

Maybe I should have kept all the manual focus FD lenses I sold in 1997.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 06:06:58 PM »
canon is not for poor film makers anymore!

GASP!  You're SO right!  All of their current lineup has had it's movie function removed via an OTA update and our DSLR's no longer record movies!  AHHH!!  What will we all do?!?!  On top of that, CR is reporting that all future DSLR's will be stripped of this feature as well.  Finally, it's been reported that the sun will not rise tomorrow either!

Seriously man, this camera and the lenses aren't for the budget filmmaker.  And the fantastic capabilities of today's DSLR's is no less fantastic than it's always been.  And the future DSLR's should inherit some sort of tech from the new Cinema line as well to improve their systems.  If anything, the introduction of the Cinema line is a bonus for DSLR's!  Chill with the doom and gloom.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 06:16:07 PM »
CN-E14.5-60mm T2.6 L S (EF mount) lens for 45,000 to 47,000$ each?
what did happened to you, canon?, I waited for an year to see better cam than 5d, in an affordable range!
but finally what we have is FULL HD cam for estimated 20,000$ price range!!

I laugh at myself for being poor.

This camera and the lenses, despite the seemingly common name, aren't for you.

That is unless your name is James Cameron or Steven Spielberg. And if it were, I'd want to know wtf you were wasting your time here and not producing more art! This kit is aimed at people who have movie budgets that start at $10million and go up from there. Or someone with a smaller budget might rent one plus some lenses.

So yes, keep laughing at yourself, but not because you're poor, but because you don't understand who this camera is targeted at (not you!.)

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 06:24:56 PM »
Sure it's out of most everyone's price range, but it wasn't meant for the masses.  Canon released this first to come out strong introducing the whole EOS Cinema line and make an impression on Hollywood and get some cred with the bigwigs. 

Next logical move would be to release a more prosumer level (but capable) Cinema DSLR, which they are in the process of doing.  They know how hungry we are for a reasonably priced, really awesome camera, and I'm sure they'll deliver.  Business is business, and I think they made the right move.
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 07:30:16 PM »
Yep a prosumer Cinema DSLR would sell like hotcakes.  Think of all the 5Ds & 7Ds that sold that will only be used for video purposes.

I just want a high MP still camera with limited Video capabilities. So a 5d3 or even 5d2(once it goes back on CLP) will work for me.

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2011, 08:02:54 PM »
i think this is really good news, 5D owners will be complaining that they don't have the best video for under 2000 bucks but those who are serious about video won't mind the price.

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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2011, 08:10:14 PM »
I'm guessing the 1D body C camera will be the king of dslr video and i don't thing there will be a video only orientated 5D.

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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2011, 08:10:14 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2011, 09:09:27 PM »
Of course, the word "synergy" comes to mind - Canon already has made it seem as if the push for the EOS Cinema system is having effects that will come to regular DSLRs as well.  Remember, if they hadn't cared about HD video at all, we'd just be shooting stills and nothing else - beyond maybe VGA clips (which have been standard in many cameras for a long time).

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2011, 09:36:38 PM »
This is just the start. It's hard to say where Canon is heading after this. :)

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2011, 09:36:38 PM »