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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2014, 03:56:52 PM »
You read incorrectly. I acknowledged there's a filter holder (in fact I had posted a thread on it on CR) and commented that it is useless because it doesn't work with Lee 150 filters- only with 3 very limiting Cokin filters.

My bad I didn't read the whole thread!
I know you can't use all the filters, but in the end it's a superwide angle, so the only filter I would use on that could be a ND, I don't know about a ND Grad because I don't know how it would end up on the horizon line on such a lens.
If the compatible Cokin filters don't suck it is probably worth a try...the problem is the huge size of the filter holder itself, not comfortable at all to carry around.

All square filter holders are large and clumsy, even ones for 100mm filters.
The problem with Cokin filters is the color cast and loss in IQ, limitation of filters available, plus incompatibility with ANY other holder system.
Samyang should have made it compatible with the Lee 150, which works with both the Nikon 14-24 and 17mm TS-E.
Couple of notes about filters for superwides (ultrawides)- It is always good to have the option of using CP-Ls- maybe not to darken skies, but to reduce glare or reflections. "CP-Ls don't work for ultrawides" is an erroneous generalization.
Same goes for grad NDs- you might want to darken part of the foreground. Maybe a rock formation that you want to get more detail out of. 
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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2014, 03:56:52 PM »

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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2014, 05:05:27 PM »
Hey! you like equipment (just like me).
So allow me for a moment to propose exactly the opposite:
Sell:   Bower 8mm. F/ 3.5 Fisheye CS. Tamron SP AF 11-18 mm. F/ 4.5-5.6 DI JJ LD IF,  Canon EF 17-40 mm. F/ 4.0 L

Get: Canon 8-15 4L, Canon 16-35 2.8L II, Canon TS-E17mm 4L

1. Enjoy  ;D
2. Enjoy  very much! ;D
3. UWA GAS cured for good  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2014, 05:36:44 PM »
3. UWA GAS cured for good  ;D ;D ;D

Only until:
1. You really want that 14mm f/2.8L II.
2. Canon brings out a sharper ultrawide zoom.

There's no cure to gas. Quietly concede.
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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2014, 05:51:48 PM »
Dear Surapon,

It seems that you have already covered most of the range but still need something rectilinear and wider than 17mm on full frame. Instead of buying a 14mm fixed focal lens I may suggest to go even wider with the Sigma 12-24 zoom (or Sigma 8-16 for APS-C). These are the widest rectilinear lens available (to the best of my knowledge) and you can find some reviews about it here:

http://www.juzaphoto.com/article.php?l=en&article=42
http://www.juzaphoto.com/article.php?l=en&article=51


Unfortunately this Sigma has significant sample variation; however with a good copy the corners can be at least as good as Canon 17-40.


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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2014, 06:32:42 PM »
Dear Friends and Teachers.
Next month i June 6th. to 14 Th., I will go to the beautiful National Park in Utah. Now I have a "GAS" Illness.
The Question that I need your help , Sir/ Madam :

This New  Super Wide Lens(?) just for day time shooting in the Park for Scenery. Well Night time/ Early morning- shooting , I will use my Tripods , that I do not need Fast Lens.
1) I already have:  Bower 8mm. F/ 3.5 Fisheye CS.
                          Tamron SP AF 11-18 mm. F/ 4.5-5.6 DI JJ LD IF
                          Canon EF 17-40 mm. F/ 4.0 L
                           Canon TS-E 24 mm. F/ 3.5 L MK II
                          Canon EF 24-70 MM F/ 2.8 L
                          Sigma 50 mm. F/ 1.4 EX DG
2) Do I need New Canon EF 14 mm. F/ 2.8 L MK II = $ 2,000+  US. Dollars ( Or  any super Wide angle Lenses) for this trip to the Utah National Park ?

Thank you, Sir/Surapon

only one advice.... focus on location scouting not gear.

i bet... every minute spend for getting infos where to shoot best, will yield better images then YET another lens in your bag.

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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2014, 08:22:59 PM »
3. UWA GAS cured for good  ;D ;D ;D

Only until:
1. You really want that 14mm f/2.8L II.
2. Canon brings out a sharper ultrawide zoom.

There's no cure to gas. Quietly concede.
True  ;D  To tell the truth I was going to mention the 14 f/2.8L II in a later post  ;D ;D

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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2014, 09:42:10 PM »
I agree with those recommending the Samyang/Rokinon 14mm 2.8 UMC.  Excellent lens for minimal investment.  Of course your 17mm TS/E is an incredible lens, hard to beat it for UWA landscape.

Which Utah park(s) are you going to?  Bryce is my favorite, but Arches, Zion and Canyonlands are awesome as well.
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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2014, 09:42:10 PM »

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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2014, 09:44:21 PM »
Mr Surapon,

Have fun with your new toy and enjoy your trip! :) Also, good luck on the DIY filter holder, there appears to be some pressure from our peers! ;)

I think I am missing something, i don't get what GAS means? I'm i just being dim? Could someone explain the pun/joke to me please? :)
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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2014, 11:15:15 PM »
i think you should get the 11-22 IS for your eos M

seriously its wonderfull and cheap!
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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2014, 01:01:26 AM »
Mr Surapon,

Have fun with your new toy and enjoy your trip! :) Also, good luck on the DIY filter holder, there appears to be some pressure from our peers! ;)

I think I am missing something, i don't get what GAS means? I'm i just being dim? Could someone explain the pun/joke to me please? :)


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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2014, 09:33:50 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreyCat/Gear_Acquisition_Syndrome


Well that clears it up...  in which case i have a 5 month chip and counting...  one day at a time!
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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2014, 01:38:12 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreyCat/Gear_Acquisition_Syndrome


Well that clears it up...  in which case i have a 5 month chip and counting...  one day at a time!


and if you need a dr. to cure GAS, I highly recommend Neuro ;D 
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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2014, 04:02:40 PM »
Dear Friends and Teachers.
Next month i June 6th. to 14 Th., I will go to the beautiful National Park in Utah. Now I have a "GAS" Illness.The Question that I need your help , Sir/ Madam :

This New  Super Wide Lens(?) just for day time shooting in the Park for Scenery. Well Night time/ Early morning- shooting , I will use my Tripods , that I do not need Fast Lens.
1) I already have:  Bower 8mm. F/ 3.5 Fisheye CS.
                          Tamron SP AF 11-18 mm. F/ 4.5-5.6 DI JJ LD IF
                          Canon EF 17-40 mm. F/ 4.0 L
                           Canon TS-E 24 mm. F/ 3.5 L MK II
                          Canon EF 24-70 MM F/ 2.8 L
                          Sigma 50 mm. F/ 1.4 EX DG
2) Do I need New Canon EF 14 mm. F/ 2.8 L MK II = $ 2,000+  US. Dollars ( Or  any super Wide angle Lenses) for this trip to the Utah National Park ?

Thank you, Sir/Surapon

surapon, I believe you are the only one on CR have this disease ;D

No comment on the UWA lens, I think your 17-40 will be fine ;) Bring a tripod and keep that aperture f11 to f16. Enjoy your trip and don't forget to share your photos ;)

Thankssss, Dear my friend Dylan777.
Yes, You save me $ 2,000 US dollars to day, And  I will shoot with confidence at the Utah National Parks..
Have a great weekend, Sir.
Surapon

Surapon, sound like you own Dylan777 some commission LOL happy shooting, I also agree you 17-40 should be fine.

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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2014, 04:02:40 PM »

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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2014, 05:48:53 PM »
Surapon, you have most lengths covered.  There are new and impending uwa lenses coming that I am lusting after too.  You may want to consider going on the cheap with a Samyang 14mm.  I have one and with a little practice, you will find that they put out an amazing image for about $300.00.  Really, set it to about f8 and about 10 feet or so, play with iso and shutter speed, look at your image on the screen and your histogram and essentially everything is so sharp you won't believe it.  When the new lenses come in (hopefully in the fall), you can either get those or stick with the cheapo, but excellent Sammy.

For Horseshoe Bend, you will need at least a 14 mm (a smidge long on full frame), and the 8 mm will be nice to have for this scene too.  I agree with the tripod.  By the way, you better not be afraid of heights, or you will loose your cookies here!

Just a thought.

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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2014, 08:57:39 PM »
Thousand Thanks to all of my dear friends.
Yes, I just get the new/ Awesome/ Cheap Rokinon FE 14 M-C 14 mm. , F/ 2.8 Yesterday, And I Start to use this Baby, and fell in love with her Sharpness at F= 2.8, to F = 11, And just set  Manual focus at 6 Feet( Put the Electrical tape to not let the focus ring move) and get the most awesome Photos for super wide angle.
Yes, I will post and share the photos with you to see with in 2-3 days, Because This week, I am so busy at my work in my office.
Yes, Dear Friend, I will have DIY for filter holder , for this Lens for you to see and laugh at , too.---Yes, It work for me, And I only use the Part/ Equipment that I already have---You will love this DIY.
Have a great work week.
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Re: Question about my Future super wide angle Lens( GAS. Illness) ?
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