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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2014, 08:21:48 AM »
the truly inane thing about this is how does one enforce this?

if i create a set up that uses the same configuration of lights but i change the positions by a foot or two and the angle by a foot or two i will effectively get the same lighting result but technically not infringe upon the patent. and even if its argued that i did infringe...how in the heck would you ever prove that i did?
YES, you get IT. To be safe, use an f-stop other than approximately 5.6, an ISO setting other than 320.
This patent is so specific, it's meaningless to anyone, everyone but Amazon.
It's their specific product photo set up and that's all and only what it is.
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Although, there's nothing stopping anyone from improving on that specific set up, applying for another ridiculous patent.
 
 
 
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How much does it cost to get a patent?  I'd like to purport that I use a patented lighting technique that no one else on the planet is allowed to use without my permission.
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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2014, 08:21:48 AM »

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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2014, 09:05:05 AM »
How much does it cost to get a patent? 
Between filing and legal fees, it usually costs between $70,000-100,000+ and is currently running 3-5 years for full approval (the current Administration has not made US innovation a high priority so there is a massive backlog of applications).  The legal fees are the biggest part because they have people that do exhaustive searches for conflicting patents and "prior art' that could derail the application.  Also, for a patent, you must be able to demonstrate/let them test the item/technique you're seeking to patent, with the exception of explosives. Really.
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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2014, 10:04:52 AM »
Amazon will likely get the patent

After all the courts originally approved for Bio-tech companies to patent genes.

Yes.  Genes...

Those DNA strands

Created by nature...

and in YOUR BODY...

The patent was finally overturned after several years, but in short a biotech company had patented a gene so that they would have exclusivity for a test for the early detection of breast cancer and were forcing people to pay for their over priced tests.  While the court got it right... eventually, what is sad is the patent should have been rejected in the outright from the beginning.

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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2014, 11:18:24 AM »
It's an interesting world, isn't it? I do wonder though exactly how they will enforce any perceived infringement.  Just by looking at someone else's photo they'll be able to tell that the copyrighted setup was used, exactly? 

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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2014, 06:33:02 PM »
What's to prevent other companies from patenting their lighting secrets? Pretty soon we'll have no way to legally light a subject!

I think that's the only interesting part about this.  Defensive patents are filed and granted all the time.  There's plenty more silliness coming out of the USPTO if you have a look.  But theoretically there could be an infinite amount of patents on every permutation of lighting setup.

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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2014, 06:38:15 PM »
Amazon will likely get the patent...
Amazon has already been awarded the patent.
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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2014, 12:08:35 PM »

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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2014, 12:25:13 PM »
http://www.photographybay.com/2014/05/15/colbert-report-takes-on-amazons-seamless-white-background-patent/

Man I love Colbert, sorry to see the show go.  Can't wait to watch this clip tonight.

I didn't think the Amazon joke was his best, but I'm sad to see it go as well.  There are so many talk shows all doing the same thing... entertaining yes, but the Colbert report was just a sublime parody that truly felt ground breaking.  It is sad to see the character go.  I'm more upset by Colbert than Letterman who I grew up watching.
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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2014, 01:51:34 PM »
[There are so many talk shows all doing the same thing... entertaining yes, but the Colbert report was just a sublime parody that truly felt ground breaking.

Totally agree.  I don't watch much of the late night shows; they're entertaining enough, but all kind of the same.  If for some reason I happen to be watching TV when they're on I'll watch them, but that's rare.  Colbert show I made a point to watch.

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Re: Amazon files patent showing studio lighting technique ?
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2014, 01:51:34 PM »