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Looking or an Fullframe SLR - Your Experience needed
« on: May 14, 2014, 05:22:18 PM »
Hi!

As I want to start shooting landscape, I want to buy an FF SLR in the next days for our pre-summer holidays.

As there will be an rumored FF body this year, I do not want to an expersive one (5D Mark 3). I do prefer the 6D.

My questions are:
- Buy the 6D, or wait until the new appears (I know, Guys.... Then I do never buy a new body as there will always be an successor.... But will the new FF body around the corner?)?

- Which Third-party grip to buy? (NOT the original Canon, as it is to expernsive).

- Which card to store (Transcend R95 SDXC 64GB, UHS-I U3 (TS64GSDU3) good choice?) Will an  UHS-I U3 work with the 6D?

And: How is it to work with the small AF-Area? The few AF points are quite grouped around the Center AF.

Thanks for all of your replies
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« on: May 14, 2014, 05:22:18 PM »

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Re: Looking or an Fullframe SLR - Your Experience needed
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2014, 06:14:39 PM »
I can only respond intelligently (or at least semi-intelligently) to your first question: There will be no full frame camera released in the coming days in time for your pre-summer holidays.

Rumors of any full frame body this year are just that – rumors.

Personally, I would be willing to bet that there will be no full frame body released this year.
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2014, 06:38:40 PM »
What unfocused said.

Plus, while I have a gripped 5d3 and love the grip, why are you needing a grip? Or is it because you want the dual batteries so you don't have to change in the middle of a field somewhere?

As for the 6D, it's a great camera from everything I've heard. The center AF point is very good, although the rest are meh.

As for memory card, from what I recall, 6D supports up to UHS-1. So pick a card that has UHS-1 support, and then pick you're preferred brand & speed.

Last bit, landscapes. You can do them without a tripod, depending on your style, but if you are going to end up being rather serious about them you should definitely consider a good quality tripod, which will run you $500-600 and up. But, if you just sorta have an interest, leave that for another time. Also get a cable release and learn about mirror lockup.
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2014, 06:51:14 PM »
Just get the 6D now.

For critical landscape work, the flex between body and grip can be an issue.  That's true with Canon OEM grips, I can't imagine it's better with 3rd party offerings.  I like using a grip (mine's built-in, now), but you might consider removing it for tripod use. 

For landscape use, the clustered AF points aren't an issue, just use live view.

No idea on SD cards, sorry.
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Re: Looking or an Fullframe SLR - Your Experience needed
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2014, 08:55:53 PM »

Last bit, landscapes. You can do them without a tripod, depending on your style, but if you are going to end up being rather serious about them you should definitely consider a good quality tripod, which will run you $500-600 and up. But, if you just sorta have an interest, leave that for another time. Also get a cable release and learn about mirror lockup.

I'm curious why folks spend that kind of money on a tripod for stills.  That's almost as much as I paid for my video tripod with dual handles and a nice fluid head, all of which is massive overkill if you don't need smooth pans and tilts while the camera is live.  I'm just curious, speaking as someone who has never shot stills with a tripod that costs more than about forty bucks.  :)

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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2014, 02:00:39 AM »
Just get the 6D now.

For critical landscape work, the flex between body and grip can be an issue.  That's true with Canon OEM grips, I can't imagine it's better with 3rd party offerings.  I like using a grip (mine's built-in, now), but you might consider removing it for tripod use. 

For landscape use, the clustered AF points aren't an issue, just use live view.

No idea on SD cards, sorry.

Sorry this is a bit off-topic, but doesn't having the L-plate under your palm bother you when using a grip (handholding in portrait mode, I mean)?

OP, I know that for 5DIII, the Kirk L bracket clamps both at the tripod plate and the left strap lug.
If you have a grip, that would be at the grip and at the body, and I would say that makes it more stable.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 02:28:10 AM »

Sorry this is a bit off-topic, but doesn't having the L-plate under your palm bother you when using a grip (handholding in portrait mode, I mean)?


Not me, I have RRS L-Plates and they have very smooth edges and don't add much volume to the set, but there is no difference between an L-Plate and a simple bottom plate when hand holding and shooting in portrait mode.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2014, 02:32:47 AM »
Last bit, landscapes. You can do them without a tripod, depending on your style, but if you are going to end up being rather serious about them you should definitely consider a good quality tripod, which will run you $500-600 and up. But, if you just sorta have an interest, leave that for another time. Also get a cable release and learn about mirror lockup.
I'm curious why folks spend that kind of money on a tripod for stills.  That's almost as much as I paid for my video tripod with dual handles and a nice fluid head, all of which is massive overkill if you don't need smooth pans and tilts while the camera is live.  I'm just curious, speaking as someone who has never shot stills with a tripod that costs more than about forty bucks.  :)

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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 04:48:11 AM »
What unfocused said.

Plus, while I have a gripped 5d3 and love the grip, why are you needing a grip? Or is it because you want the dual batteries so you don't have to change in the middle of a field somewhere?

As for the 6D, it's a great camera from everything I've heard. The center AF point is very good, although the rest are meh.

As for memory card, from what I recall, 6D supports up to UHS-1. So pick a card that has UHS-1 support, and then pick you're preferred brand & speed.

Last bit, landscapes. You can do them without a tripod, depending on your style, but if you are going to end up being rather serious about them you should definitely consider a good quality tripod, which will run you $500-600 and up. But, if you just sorta have an interest, leave that for another time. Also get a cable release and learn about mirror lockup.

Thanks... wil buy an UHS-I.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2014, 04:50:03 AM »
What unfocused said.

Plus, while I have a gripped 5d3 and love the grip, why are you needing a grip? Or is it because you want the dual batteries so you don't have to change in the middle of a field somewhere?

As for the 6D, it's a great camera from everything I've heard. The center AF point is very good, although the rest are meh.

As for memory card, from what I recall, 6D supports up to UHS-1. So pick a card that has UHS-1 support, and then pick you're preferred brand & speed.



Last bit, landscapes. You can do them without a tripod, depending on your style, but if you are going to end up being rather serious about them you should definitely consider a good quality tripod, which will run you $500-600 and up. But, if you just sorta have an interest, leave that for another time. Also get a cable release and learn about mirror lockup.


I was told to buy an grip, because the 6D´s GPS drains the batteries quite much. Better take an exchance battery in my backpack without an grip?

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 05:43:51 AM »
What unfocused said.

Plus, while I have a gripped 5d3 and love the grip, why are you needing a grip? Or is it because you want the dual batteries so you don't have to change in the middle of a field somewhere?

As for the 6D, it's a great camera from everything I've heard. The center AF point is very good, although the rest are meh.

As for memory card, from what I recall, 6D supports up to UHS-1. So pick a card that has UHS-1 support, and then pick you're preferred brand & speed.



Last bit, landscapes. You can do them without a tripod, depending on your style, but if you are going to end up being rather serious about them you should definitely consider a good quality tripod, which will run you $500-600 and up. But, if you just sorta have an interest, leave that for another time. Also get a cable release and learn about mirror lockup.


I was told to buy an grip, because the 6D´s GPS drains the batteries quite much. Better take an exchance battery in my backpack without an grip?

this is what I would do
but I hate grips and the extra bulk

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Re: Looking or an Fullframe SLR - Your Experience needed
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2014, 08:30:16 AM »
6D is a terrific landscape/travel camera. Lightweight, gps, small but with excellent IQ. AF should not be decisive for landscape work, so no need for 61 points all over VF.

Watch out for GPS tho, even with camera switched off, GPS will still drain power like mad. Either turn it on when needed only or pack a small fusion reactor in your backpack :)
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Re: Looking or an Fullframe SLR - Your Experience needed
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2014, 08:56:53 AM »
the 6D is fantastic, just buy it right now.

I wouldn't worry too much about the GPS depleting batteries, I've used my 6D with one battery on a 12 hour shoot with the GPS turned on accidentally and never needed to change the battery.

I use class 10 UHS-1 Transcend Ultimate cards and they're great, super affordable.

Do you really need AF for landscape? surely live-view and MF is much better?
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2014, 09:18:50 AM »
Get the 6d and a solid tripod.  I'd personally go with a SanDisk card which are seemingly more reliable, and I wouldn't get a third party grip.  Just get an oem battery.

If you are doing mostly landscape, manually focus on a tripod using live view and probably smaller apertures...
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2014, 09:21:21 AM »
I was told to buy an grip, because the 6D´s GPS drains the batteries quite much. Better take an exchance battery in my backpack without an grip?

I would think it would be far easier to take one or two spare charged batteries with you than getting a grip.  You should get a grip because you want a grip, not for just the extra battery.  How long does it take to change a battery on a 6D?  Compare that with the full time bulk and weight of a grip.
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