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Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« on: May 15, 2014, 08:35:42 AM »
We were told almost immediately after the announcement of the EF 16-35 f/4L IS that Canon is indeed working on an f/2.8 ultra wide angle zoom. The lens will be wider than 16mm, although the exact optical formula is not known. We have heard in the past that an EF 12-24 f/2.8L  or EF 14-24 f/2.8L was in the works to compete with the Nikon 14-24 f/2.8G, which some Canon shooters have converted to their EOS bodies.

It was stressed that the lens was “not close” to being announced, and would probably arrive within 6 months of a higher megapixel full frame prosumer camera body.

We’re also told that the Canon EF 17-40 f/4L will remain a current product in the Canon lineup for the time being. Although with how close they are in price, which I’m still surprised about. I can’t see many people not savings a bit longer for the new lens. This may be a matter of depleting stock before discontinuation.

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Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2014, 08:49:03 AM »
Choices, choices ... this is the year of the UWA zoom.

Do you want IS, IQ and filters, or less range, slightly lower range, another stop and a big, bulbous nose?

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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2014, 08:51:44 AM »
After reading for ages I took now the time to register and would like to ask:

Does [CR2] also apply to "a higher megapixel full frame prosumer camera body" - and what could that be?

This forum is so full of inspiration regarding photography - thank you all.

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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2014, 08:57:02 AM »

Isn't there generally a patent that surfaces a few months before a lens is announced and then ships?

Have there been any patents by Canon that correlate with this range/aperture?


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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2014, 09:03:01 AM »

Isn't there generally a patent that surfaces a few months before a lens is announced and then ships?

Have there been any patents by Canon that correlate with this range/aperture?

Quite many actually AFAIK. I've seen many patents and rumors about either 14-24/2.8 or even 12-24/2.8 on this web past few months/years.
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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2014, 09:37:05 AM »
More options...Uhmmmmm, sounds good to me
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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 09:42:33 AM »
A lot of people will want both the 16-35 f/4L IS and a 12-24 f/2.8 ....

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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 09:42:33 AM »

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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2014, 09:52:31 AM »
Love the idea of the updates.  But I wonder if Canon's plan is to keep size and weight down with f/2.8 zooms (rumored 12/14-24 L and the 24-70 II) so they will not have IS and f/4 (16-35 f/4 IS; 24-70/105 f/4), requiring less glass, will have IS. 

If that is the case, my decision is simple, the 16-35 f/4 IS.  Four stops of IS will be much more useful to me for landscapes than 1 stop of aperture. 

Glad I've held off on buying my UWA zoom lens.

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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 10:22:12 AM »
We’re also told that the Canon EF 17-40 f/4L will remain a current product in the Canon lineup for the time being. Although with how close they are in price, which I’m still surprised about. I can’t see many people not savings a bit longer for the new lens.

Not a surprise at all to me. the EF 17-40 is currently selling for $739 after rebate. Bring it down to $650 and it makes a nice alternative to the new 16-45 "L" for those who want an ultra-wide for occasional use, but don't need IS or razor sharp corners. The extra 5mm at the long end also makes it more versatile as a "walk around" lens.

Canon has kept the 70-200mm f4 non-IS in the lineup at a similar price differential and IS is far more important on a telephoto than an ultra-wide.
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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2014, 10:34:45 AM »
For travel landscape shooting, the 16-35 4L IS is perfect. The IS makes hand held slow shutter speed and low ISO possible which is great. For serious landscape work, really should be looking at the TS-E or Zeiss lenses. For event and photojournalism, the new 2.8 would be the choice to stop the motion.

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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 10:42:42 AM »
In the US the prices maybe close but in Europe they are not £ 1,199 for the 16-35mm f4L and £ 629 for the 17-40mm f4L thats a big difference. Interestingly the 16-35mm f2.8 II is £ 1,214 only £ 15.00 more ($ 25)
Go figure European pricing!

Compare that to the B&H prices which are $ 1,699 for the 16-35mm f4L and $ 839 for the 17-40mm f4L
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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2014, 10:52:49 AM »
Sounds like holding off on the 17-40 was the right decision  ::)
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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2014, 12:21:32 PM »
Ok ok now this is what I've been waiting for....
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2014, 01:45:29 PM »
Does this mean no 16-35 f/2.8 III?

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Re: Canon Working on Faster f/2.8 Ultra Wide Zoom [CR2]
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2014, 02:05:49 PM »
Does this mean no 16-35 f/2.8 III?

Impossible to predict. It's a favorite photo journalism lens, probably much more practical than the 12-24 range. And future high ISO improvements may make an update to the f/2.8 even less relevant.
Long term, I would think:

1.   12-24 (or 14-24) f/2.8L 
2.   16-35 f/4L IS  (the 17-40 f/4L is a goner I think)
3.   16-35 f/2.8L III (I tend to think there'll be an update)

I think there's room for all three zooms, and if push came to shove I would probably favor an optically excellent 16-35 2.8L III over an optically excellent 16-35 f/4L IS.  But I'd prefer an optically excellent 16-35 f/4L IS over the less-than-excellent 16-35 f/2.8L II (which I currently own, and love).   The 14 f/2.8L II may not see another update.

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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2014, 02:05:49 PM »