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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2014, 07:53:13 PM »
looks like an excellent partner for the 15-85
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2014, 07:53:13 PM »

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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2014, 08:12:43 PM »
If I was a crop owner, I'd rather have the EF-S 10-22

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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2014, 11:38:54 PM »
Did someone really question why people in the UK are annoyed at the marked up prices and then go on to prove that the UK is paying a good sum more than all other countries as back up for their point...?
I have never bought a camera or lens in a UK high street shop and that is the reason why. I will go in and try out everything in Jessops as it's the best way to get a feel of a camera/lens, but I'll buy it off Amazon or the likes.

obviously you fail at reading.  the prices aren't marked up.

You are paying the same as the people in japan are.

canon isn't a US company - or do they not know that over there?

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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2014, 11:51:51 PM »
But, the best I can do on the Rebel is the manual-focus 14 mm Bower. And manually focusing on the Rebel isn't really easy for my old eyes through the viewfinder.
There is actually a pretty long list of high quality and affordable UWA's for APS-C, with the Bower being kind of low on te list of them. The Tokina 11-16 and Canon 10-22 already exist in the $500 range for example
If I was a crop owner, I'd rather have the EF-S 10-22
I actually get this lens in the same way I get the 18-55 and 55-250 existing. Sure, there are better options in the $4-500 range for that focal length, and WAY better options in the $800+ range, but if its something you'll use sparingly, a $200ish lens is a good option. The retail price of the 55-250 is $350, but you can regularly find it used on and on sale at half that price. So, in a year, people will have a <$200 wide angle option on APS-C. Which is kind of cool.

If people need the extra light for stars or street shooting, they'd go Tokina. If they want sharpness and flare control, there's the 10-22. If they want something for rare occurrences, there's this.

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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2014, 12:04:29 AM »
this looks like a nice lens, but not nice enough for me to switch from my 10-22.   I do think that this completes a nice lens line up for beginners and semi pro's who want an inexpensive kit covering 16-400mm FF equivalent.

looks like a winner to me.  wonder how long until you can get a rebel bundled with 3 stm lenses, bag, extra battery, and cleaning kit.
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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2014, 12:15:08 AM »
Did someone really question why people in the UK are annoyed at the marked up prices and then go on to prove that the UK is paying a good sum more than all other countries as back up for their point...?
I have never bought a camera or lens in a UK high street shop and that is the reason why. I will go in and try out everything in Jessops as it's the best way to get a feel of a camera/lens, but I'll buy it off Amazon or the likes.

obviously you fail at reading.  the prices aren't marked up.

You are paying the same as the people in japan are.

canon isn't a US company - or do they not know that over there?

Dude, I try to stay off the internet when I've been drinking...

To state what's obvious to others, if perhaps not yourself; you've just posted figured to confirm that both the Japanese and US prices are less than, not equal to, the UK price, followed by another kind poster letting us know that it's also cheaper in the Netherlands.

It appears that your desire to appear to be an elite, admirable fountain of knowledge surpasses your inclination to avoid coming across as an arrogant, clueless, contradictory prick. I didn't need to put that so childishly but you started it.
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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2014, 01:08:12 AM »
Did someone really question why people in the UK are annoyed at the marked up prices and then go on to prove that the UK is paying a good sum more than all other countries as back up for their point...?
I have never bought a camera or lens in a UK high street shop and that is the reason why. I will go in and try out everything in Jessops as it's the best way to get a feel of a camera/lens, but I'll buy it off Amazon or the likes.

obviously you fail at reading.  the prices aren't marked up.

You are paying the same as the people in japan are.

canon isn't a US company - or do they not know that over there?

Dude, I try to stay off the internet when I've been drinking...

To state what's obvious to others, if perhaps not yourself; you've just posted figured to confirm that both the Japanese and US prices are less than, not equal to, the UK price, followed by another kind poster letting us know that it's also cheaper in the Netherlands.

It appears that your desire to appear to be an elite, admirable fountain of knowledge surpasses your inclination to avoid coming across as an arrogant, clueless, contradictory prick. I didn't need to put that so childishly but you started it.

oh i'm sorry i figured you could do the math of VAT + a value and come up with a value to which you'd find that, no, it's not.

so in case you can't .. 46000 Yen = 270 sterling = 324 sterling.  in actuality you pay less than the people in that country that made it.  however it's probably equals out close enough.

people are using the USD and saying canon or company A is gouging.  Well, it may be; UK is certainly a more expensive place to do business AND on top of that you are a limited market, so you would be not benefiting as much from volume.

however, it's hard to argue when you don't use the country that manufactured the item's native currency to do the math - would you not agree?
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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2014, 01:08:12 AM »

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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2014, 03:30:36 AM »
For a $300 lens, the results look very good. This may be one of those lenses all APS-C shooters end up buying.
Indeed! I think for many people this 10-18 IS STM and the 18-135 IS STM are the only 2 lenses the'd ever need ... for the price & performance, those 2 lenses, (plus the 40 f/2.8 or the 50 f/1.8 ) will add a lot of value for people who shoot with the rebel & xxD cameras. Good move by Canon!
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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2014, 03:37:17 AM »
Am I being silly or are there bigger sample images available yet?


It has been a while since I was in US or JP, but from memory prices in both countries exclude sales tax right? What is the "going rate"? UK £300 ex. VAT would be £250.

As for comparing prices to the US for a JP company, that can work. If you look at currency conversions, it all balances out. If it didn't, people would exploit those differences by changing money between them and make a profit.

I don't know about other countries, but historically in the UK, lenses seem to be released at full RRP for pre-orders and shortly after launch. Depending on availability and market forces, it will tend to quickly drop to a more reasonable street level after some time. The bigger question is how much and when, but you tend to see faster drops early on, before the slower drop or even flat price over the longer term. I don't know if there is much of this effect in other countries also.

Back to the lens itself, I find myself likely to get one. I used to have the old variable aperture Sigma before I was on Canon and never got round to replacing it, making do with a fisheye instead. Not quite the same I'll admit. To me personally, the speed difference is not significant as I'll be using it around f/8 anyway for more depth of field and better sharpness across the frame. It will be used more at the wide end than long end so I wont miss that. Focus speed? Is that really important for a UWA? Give it a little time and it will be half the price of the 10-22, and I don't think you can complain about the value there.

Side note: for the 10-22's money, I'd rather be looking at the Sigma 8-16 anyway...
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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2014, 03:42:57 AM »
looks like an excellent partner for the 15-85
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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2014, 01:06:50 PM »
Am I being silly or are there bigger sample images available yet?

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There are bigger samples if you click the link below the image in its caption - just right from the number of the picture which is in a readable "language". (I just hovered with the mouse over the caption to see if there is something more representative ... and found it.)

They are some 20 MPix large so they might be taken with EOS 6D and EOS 70D ...
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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2014, 01:55:09 PM »
looks like an excellent partner for the 15-85

I'm guessing more like an add on for the 18-55mm given the build and price.

Very smart move by Canon IMHO since by US prices especially(I won't be surprised to see UK prices come down to £260ish in a few months) its offering UWA cheaper than anyone else.

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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2014, 05:24:15 PM »
There are bigger samples if you click the link below the image in its caption - just right from the number of the picture which is in a readable "language". (I just hovered with the mouse over the caption to see if there is something more representative ... and found it.)

They are some 20 MPix large so they might be taken with EOS 6D and EOS 70D ...
Thanks. Picked a few at random, exif says they're taken with the Kiss X7 (100D). Samples lacked a little punch but easily fixed by a tad more sharpening... think I might get one sooner than later at this rate!
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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2014, 05:24:15 PM »

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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2014, 05:46:36 PM »
"I highly doubt I'd sidegrade my 10-22mm for this..."

"I'll be keeping my 10-22mm for a bit longer" 

"not nice enough for me to switch from my 10-22"

Typical responses from owners of existing lenses that are 'threatened' by the new lens. Same kind of resposnes from owners of 24-105 when the 24-70 f/4 was introduced, and the 70-200 f/2.8 owners when the Mark II was introduced.

Without any reviews, these folks were able to determine that the new lens is inferior to what they already own. Impartial conclusions, or divertiture aversion?
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Re: EF-S 10-18 f/4.5-5.6 IS STM Image Samples
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2014, 06:26:42 PM »
i'm gonna keep an eye on discounts of this lens and snap one up for my parents for sure as they don't have an UWA at the moment and IS for them is gold even on a wide angle its much more forgiving for older and inexperienced photographers :)
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