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600-ex-rt upgrade?
« on: May 21, 2014, 01:14:32 AM »
I already own 1 canon 600 ex-rt. I plan on getting the bandh bundle that includes 2 600 ex/rt plus the transmitter. Is there any reason to believe that there is an upgrade to the 600 ex/rt or the transmitter coming in the near future or this year. id just hate to buy it then already have a product that's a generation behind

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600-ex-rt upgrade?
« on: May 21, 2014, 01:14:32 AM »

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 01:42:36 AM »
Absolutely zero chance of a 600 upgrade for years. Average top of the line EX upgrade is six years, that gives us at least four more years with the600.

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 04:38:58 PM »
thank you very much :) I'll get those flashes the next time I see a deal on them or need them for a shoot

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2014, 07:43:23 AM »
id just hate to buy it then already have a product that's a generation behind

If the 600EX-RT does all that you want it to do, what difference does it make if it is 1 or 2 "generations" old?  Pretty much everything in photography will be replaced.  Since companies recognize that novelty has a value in itself, new models will be coming out more often.

Trying to keep up with the current generation of any type of equipment can become expensive and may not really give you any real advantage. 

The best time to buy any photographic equipment is always 2 years from now... but following that "logic", you would never buy anything.   ;D 

If the 600EX-RT does what you need it to do and you feel you need multiple flashes, buy them now if they are at a good price.  Waiting around in case there is a new model coming out (which Canon has not even mentioned) does not make sense.

Now, if the 600EX-RT does not do what you want, and you are willing to gamble that any future models will have the capability you need, then by all means wait. 
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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2014, 09:33:57 AM »
I suspect that small flash technology with the 600RT has reached a relative peak and is leveling off. It will be difficult to get more photons out of it as that's fighting physics. The wireless technology isn't going to change, again physics and band regulation. That just leaves firmware and features. At some point they might go to a color touchscreen which wouldn't hurt, of course that would eat more battery too.

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2014, 10:25:21 AM »
The only thing that is really a possibility is a 430EX-RT, which will be slave only like its optical sibling.  But I don't think we've seen any credible rumors about it happening any time soon.  The rest is just wishful thinking.  People would like to see RT added to the MT-24 replacement, especially since the MR-14 was just replaced with a second optical version.  People would like to see the ST-E3-RT upgraded to have some additional features like a focus assist beam, but it seems unlikely.  I'm sure Canon has thought about or tinkered with some of these options, but as long as the existing products are selling well, they probably aren't in a hurry to make any changes. 
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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2014, 10:29:16 AM »
People would like to see RT added to the MT-24 replacement, especially since the MR-14 was just replaced with a second optical version.

Count me among those people.
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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2014, 10:29:49 AM »
I suspect that small flash technology with the 600RT has reached a relative peak and is leveling off. It will be difficult to get more photons out of it as that's fighting physics. The wireless technology isn't going to change, again physics and band regulation. That just leaves firmware and features. At some point they might go to a color touchscreen which wouldn't hurt, of course that would eat more battery too.

Maybe they can make a flash with adjustable light temperature.

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2014, 11:44:52 AM »
People would like to see the ST-E3-RT upgraded to have some additional features like a focus assist beam

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2014, 11:46:48 AM »
Maybe they can make a flash with adjustable light temperature.

That would be nice, but I fear a bit complicated.
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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2014, 12:30:33 PM »
... and likely very expensive.

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2014, 02:42:41 PM »
Maybe they can make a flash with adjustable light temperature.

Sounds nice but I don't know of technology for that at the flashbulb level. What I'd do is put a thin film LCD in the front, then put whatever color cast you want on it. Effectively it's an electronic gel, and you'd lose a half stop or whatever. Of course that could be done as an add in too, though batteries might make it bulky.

Convenient, but plastic gels are more accurate and cheaper.

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2014, 11:02:26 PM »
id just hate to buy it then already have a product that's a generation behind

If the 600EX-RT does all that you want it to do, what difference does it make if it is 1 or 2 "generations" old?  Pretty much everything in photography will be replaced.  Since companies recognize that novelty has a value in itself, new models will be coming out more often.

Trying to keep up with the current generation of any type of equipment can become expensive and may not really give you any real advantage. 

The best time to buy any photographic equipment is always 2 years from now... but following that "logic", you would never buy anything.   ;D 

If the 600EX-RT does what you need it to do and you feel you need multiple flashes, buy them now if they are at a good price.  Waiting around in case there is a new model coming out (which Canon has not even mentioned) does not make sense.

Now, if the 600EX-RT does not do what you want, and you are willing to gamble that any future models will have the capability you need, then by all means wait.
Because theres no reason for me to force a purchase if I can wait for the newest and best. Im not willing to wait a few years but Id be willing to wait a few months. It would be like buying a 5D II in December 2011 instead of waiting for the 5D III. Im sure the 5D II is a great camera but Im not settling for it just because I want everything right now.

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2014, 09:01:12 PM »
People would like to see the ST-E3-RT upgraded to have some additional features like a focus assist beam

Count me in

Count me in also for the AF assist ;)

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Re: 600-ex-rt upgrade?
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2014, 08:13:37 PM »
People would like to see RT added to the MT-24 replacement, especially since the MR-14 was just replaced with a second optical version.

Count me among those people.

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Speaking of which, has there been any talk of a MT-24EX Macro Twin Lite replacement coming soon?
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2014, 08:13:37 PM »